certainly, here everything is very subjective. everyone has their own degree of judgment, for example I don't care about the crown at 12 o'clock, for others it is fundamental. for me the Clean 116500 White dial is almost perfect, but its shiny counters and the blue effect (not improved in V2) are indigestible for me. despite this it remains the best Fake dial made to date. we remain with the idea and never forget that until a year ago we had noob speakers that were extremely fake when viewed in profile. everything gets better, but they can't bring out perfection, the world of watchmaking would be flooded with scams .. that's right for me.