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Daytona 116519 Grey Dial From GOLD Factory inquiry

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It’s tungsten case, rehaut is very good, so probably better than clean, weight more close to Gen (clean is SS case)
Hi, and thank you very much for your pics and thoughts on the watch. Iv'e been on the verge of buying the RG brown dial from Gold Factory for awhile now but hadn't seen any real life reviews and had one question that was holding me back from ordering so I hope you can help me.

From the bits and pieces Iv'e put together, it seems that the clasp isnt made out of tungsten, this also makes sense to me since the gold hallmarks on the inside of clasp are much closer to gen as they are embossed vs laser etched like other factories.. I would think that they can't achieve this effect on tungsten as its probably too difficult to emboss..any way im going off on a tangent here.

My question is, is this watch Top heavy? if im correct and only the case is tungsten then I would imagine the clasp feels quite light/ flimsy compared to the case.. this is my main concern. if you can please clarify, it would be a huge help!

On a side point, I kind of understand why it might hard to make a clasp fully out of tungsten as its made of of much smaller parts etc.. but hopfully one day they can release a clasp that some of the simple parts are tungsten while other peices are made from steel so the hallmarks can still be embossed..

lastly, here is a video posted to youtube last week showing the gold factory daytona coming in at 149g. Im wondering if they have slighty increased the weight on their lastest batches.. did you by any chance weigh yours yet and if not would you be able to? and if possible if you can weigh the clasp and case separately so we can get the true weight of each piece

 
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Hi, and thank you very much for your pics and thoughts on the watch. Iv'e been on the verge of buying the RG brown dial from Gold Factory for awhile now but hadn't seen any real life reviews and had one question that was holding me back from ordering so I hope you can help me.

From the bits and pieces Iv'e put together, it seems that the clasp isnt made out of tungsten, this also makes sense to me since the gold hallmarks on the inside of clasp are much closer to gen as they are embossed vs laser etched like other factories.. I would think that they can't achieve this effect on tungsten as its probably too difficult to emboss..any way im going off on a tangent here.

My question is, is this watch Top heavy? if im correct and only the case is tungsten then I would imagine the clasp feels quite light/ flimsy compared to the case.. this is my main concern. if you can please clarify, it would be a huge help!

On a side point, I kind of understand why it might hard to make a clasp fully out of tungsten as its made of of much smaller parts etc.. but hopfully one day they can release a clasp that some of the simple parts are tungsten while other peices are made from steel so the hallmarks can still be embossed..

lastly, here is a video posted to youtube last week showing the gold factory daytona coming in at 149g. Im wondering if they have slighty increased the weight on their lastest batches.. did you by any chance weigh yours yet and if not would you be able to? and if possible if you can weigh the clasp and case separately so we can get the true weight of each piece

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So yes you’re right, clasp is in SS not tungsten, I wish one day one of the best factory will do a Tungsten clasp and I will swap for it immediately. The case is in tungsten for sure and it’s very heavy ! You can immediately feel the difference with the clasp (but actually you won’t get better rep for something that’s not pure gold 😅).
I will put the watch on a balance tomorrow and show you the real weight of the watch 😁👌
 

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To be honest gen feels unbalanced as well, not in a bad sense but almost all heft is on the head of the watch, gen is about 150g so the 5g difference is almost impossible to notice on hand, gen and tungsten rep give the same sensation when you hold it.
 
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Would be nice to compare ! Head of Gen would be around 120gr, curious about the tungsten head.
 
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I just wait for my last Gen part before sending to Nikz, Gen stem 😁.
I give you my actual list of parts for Franken :

This is the list of Gen parts I provide :
-Gen White gold crown
-Gen SS pusher x2
-Gen Crystal
-Gen hands
-Gen Stem
-Gen chrono wheel new Gen
-Gen barrel + mainspring

List of better grade parts I provide :
-Clean Factory V3 Ceramic bezel
-Clean factory Oysterflex E+F bracelet.
-RB factory dial

Watch will be WG platted, and fully serviced (and Franken for sure 😁)
I will send pics of all the parts and watch next week when I have a bit of time 👌.
This looks epic (y) .

I thought there were concerns/ issues with longevity etc on plating tungsten?. Has Nikz confirmed this will all be okay?
 

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I’m trying to contact him again so he can confirm. When I explain my project via email, they ask to send the watch etc…
Wait for an answer 😁👌
 
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Hello !!
So yes you’re right, clasp is in SS not tungsten, I wish one day one of the best factory will do a Tungsten clasp and I will swap for it immediately. The case is in tungsten for sure and it’s very heavy ! You can immediately feel the difference with the clasp (but actually you won’t get better rep for something that’s not pure gold 😅).
I will put the watch on a balance tomorrow and show you the real weight of the watch 😁👌
Thank you for the quick response! im looking forward to seeing the weight!

FYI I noticed the K factory makes tungsten Yacht Masters that are gen weight, that might mean that they have acheived a tungsten clasp.. (or they just made the case even heavier) and clasp is still steel.
 
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Rep to gen clasp should be around 10 grams difference I would say, a whole midcase is 25g difference from steel to tungsten.
Hey, I hear what your saying but my main concern wasnt that the weight is off from Gen, because you are correct a total of 14 grams going from gold factory's: 145g to Gen: 159g isnt a lot at all... if its distributed proportionally.

The issue is, if the clasp is SS then any weight added to this watch is coming only from the case. According to a few posts I saw, a standard clean Daytona on OF is 105g... so that means gold factory added 40g to the case! and zero to the clasp which I would think makes the watch feel a bit lopsided.

Also, the clasp is interacted with more then then the case since its constantly being taken on/off.. I belive there is a big differance in overall feel between ss clasp and a real gold or tungsten clasp as I think it will make it feel much more solid in terms of opening and closing the clasp ( I could be wrong on this) that is why I was hoping the clasp had at least some tungsten added so it would feel more sturdy.

But like i mentioned in my previous post, K factory seems to have made a gen weight YM on oysterflrex so they might be using a tungsten bracelet..another reason why I think that can be the case is the gold hallmarks on K factory clasp look laser etched VS embossed...but this still needs verification. Even if it is tungsten, not sure it the color would match stock Gold factory if one wanted to swap.
 

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Just remember it’s 150gr not 1kg 😁
I don’t think it’s a huge issue on wrist, for sure you can feel 10gr difference from SS vs gold or tungsten but at the end that you feel is the total price at your wrist, you will make probably no difference on how the weight is distributed up or down your wrist. But that’s just my opinion. It’s called perfection (and I’m really into perfection) but I will accommodate with 150gr vs 160gr and can wait some factory make us some tungsten clasp 😁 !
 

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Hey, I hear what your saying but my main concern wasnt that the weight is off from Gen, because you are correct a total of 14 grams going from gold factory's: 145g to Gen: 159g isnt a lot at all... if its distributed proportionally.

The issue is, if the clasp is SS then any weight added to this watch is coming only from the case. According to a few posts I saw, a standard clean Daytona on OF is 105g... so that means gold factory added 40g to the case! and zero to the clasp which I would think makes the watch feel a bit lopsided.

Also, the clasp is interacted with more then then the case since its constantly being taken on/off.. I belive there is a big differance in overall feel between ss clasp and a real gold or tungsten clasp as I think it will make it feel much more solid in terms of opening and closing the clasp ( I could be wrong on this) that is why I was hoping the clasp had at least some tungsten added so it would feel more sturdy.

But like i mentioned in my previous post, K factory seems to have made a gen weight YM on oysterflrex so they might be using a tungsten bracelet..another reason why I think that can be the case is the gold hallmarks on K factory clasp look laser etched VS embossed...but this still needs verification. Even if it is tungsten, not sure it the color would match stock Gold factory if one wanted to swap.
I have a few OF tungsten Daytonas mate, that is why I tell, it does not feel more unbalanced than the gen watch, it only lacks about 10g on the clasp, put that into perspective, 10 grams is nothing haha.
 

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I have a few OF tungsten Daytonas mate, that is why I tell, it does not feel more unbalanced than the gen watch, it only lacks about 10g on the clasp, put that into perspective, 10 grams is nothing haha.
I actually dont have any (yet) so i will take your word for it! I appriciate the insight, I didnt realize you had tungsten daytonas. Im really glad to hear you cant tell the diff on the wrist!

The only question I still have is if the the newer Gold Factory Daytonas are 149gr..I'll wait patiently for @Le_Connoisseur to weigh his :)
 

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Here’s the photo on a balance ! 145gr !

Thank you for measuring!

I was looking to place my order from my standard Td's such as Puretime and Intime and I cant find the Gold Factory Daytona on there site..I do see it on others but its super expensive..Im wondering if this was just a mark up or if these watches are $1000+?? Apsf just came out with tungsten daytonas for quite a bit less.. and Gold factory YM's are also same range. So I dont understand why these would be hundreds of dollars more..Am I missing something?