Davidsen Pam 082 Just Arrived!

[rogerwine]

My Davidsen Titanium 082 was just delivered. Unfortunately for you guys, I am not adept at taking photos, so no pics.So I will I try and describe it as best I can. I was really nervous unpacking it. It was ensconsed in the typically good Davidsen box with ample bubble wrap +. So all arrived well preserved. The watch was seperate from the band and the band screws were screwed into the lugs. He also set a set of spring bars and tubes. The case is very well done, looking true to Titanium with a grey dull sheen and very good fit and finish The crown is not as thick as I would have hoped it would be ( not as wide as the one in my 187) but defineately Titanium. The CG is very well done and thick and the locking lever is the best I have had on any of the Pams I have purchased. This baby is tight and works just like it should. The engraving on the back is very well done and has a lot of amazing detail. While not extreamly deep, it still does the job in a very satisfying way. For me the complaint about the Officine Panerai font is a non-starter, because as a 300 watch edition, just the engraving by itself is very impressive. The serial numbers are faithfully done on the watch case itself in 3 corners and look very good as well. The sapphire crystal and AR are also very satisfying, as expected. The dial is done in this navy blue dull satin finish, with the very fine grain running up and down, and looks very classy. The numbers and hands ( and I know that this is one thing a lot of people are waiting for), do have a slight green tinge to them, but they are not lime green. They are off white with a very slight green cast to them, IMHO not bad at all and again IMHO is not off-putting at all. I opened the package after dark and at my desk with a 100watt bulb lamp, so I havent been able to see the watch in sunlight. Which in my mind will be the best test. But for me the dial color is OK. But what is not OK is the dial lume. I am a lume nut on all watches specially Pams and if this dial is superlumed I"ll eat a lot of bugs. In the common vernacular the dial lume sucks. No better then the 4th gen PO45. THe hands are adequate with regards to lume but not the dial. What a disappointment that one issue is. Lets see how everyone else reads this as they start coming in. The brown band is OK and is good leather and the screw in buckle, while not logo'd is very well done as well. I have put this on a dark blue leather band with white stitching and all in all I am very satisfyed with this effort, despite the dial lume issue. One other problem was that one of the band screws stripped its threads immediately. This is my 1st experience with this issue and I was a little put off that it happened, but the screw just kept turning and I had to push it out from the small side.
All in all, this is a really cool blue dialed Pam with a very good Titanium case. In general I am very pleased.
Rogerwine

 

[d4m.test]

thanks for the detailed post...i've been waiting on pulling the trigger on this thing..

 

[dawg]

Thank you so much for your detailed post. You have put to rest some of the questions i had. I can't wait to get mine, it's on the way! I should get it early next week.

 

[hk45ca]

it must be the same lume that was on my new superlumed dial for my 195. green, not very bright and the numbers are too thin. your right, the lume is no brighter than my po.

 

[Anubis]

Thanx for the info. Now give us some DAMN Pictures, ya bastard!

 

[rogerwine]

In the Photo department I am cast into the corner of shame. So sorry guys!
Rogerwine

 

[amadeus]

I've post some photos of mine in the Davidsens forums here: http://replica-watch.info/forum/viewtopic.php?p=132096#132096

 

[linkukbora]

Thanks for the post and still have me drooling over it :wink:

 

[Novesh]

hopefully the lume is not as bad as you say, sometimes light bulbs do not charge it completely or well enough.

I'll say this, if the lume sucks that bad, I will definitely be returning mine for a better lume job.

 

[CISO1969]

I have 4 Davidsen reps. Two are supposed to be superlumed. They glow well enough if charged a while--but not the scorching lume I see all you guys post in photos or at the level of some of my gens (Seiko dive watches -BM and OM) So am not sure if that is how they are supposed to be or not.

I will say that I do think they are my highest quality reps.

Roger, what did you have to do to get tubes?!!! I asked Davidsen about them two or three times as none of my reps from him came with them. They were the only items I mentioned to keep getting over looked or unanswered by him he did make good on replacing a short strap with the XL I ordered and threw in little extras I appreciated. I am very pleased but still wonder what the deal is with tubes. Is there a tube shortage?

CISO

 

[bigbadbrad]

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Beat me mate - that's from living in Cali! Congrats and thanks for the post!

 

[rogerwine]

NOVESH - I have been applying light to this sucker all night trying to prove myself wrong, but it just isn't there. The hands have sufficient lume applied to them and anybody that has a recent Davidsen watch or has purchased hands for modding knows what I am talking about. They will weaken over time but still will have this useful glow well into the deep hours of the night, Not so the dial! This is just like standard rep glow. You can get a good burst of glow at first, but within the hour it almost goes completely away. This is not what I pay for in a super-lumed dial. It can't hold a candle to a Vacuum or a Ziggy re-lume (Pun totally intended). Now maybe this will be the case for the 1st watches out the door and is a matter of a lume mixing mixup on the 1st batch of dials and will be rectified with further production lots, but I know that I will need to bring it up Davidsen as somewhat of a deal breaker, bacause in my mind its just to obvious. I know that this is colored by expectations, but my expectations have not been satisfied in this one narrow area. Other then that this is a very cool effort.
CISO 1969 - I didn't do a thing about asking for spring bars or tubes, they just came with the package. However, given that one of the lug screw holes was stripped from the get-go, maybe that was a known flaw and the bars were sent to me to address the problem. If nobody else gets them then that is the answer.

 

[bigbadbrad]

stripped screw thread

However, given that one of the lug screw holes was stripped from the get-go, maybe that was a known flaw and the bars were sent to me to address the problem. If nobody else gets them then that is the answer.

This is bang-on. I hate to nit-pick as DSN is such a valued resource, but the issue that I have had - and still appears to be re-occur periodically - is the QC on the screws / lug thread.

It's good to know that David is providing a back-up w/ the spring-bars, but I'm still hoping mine won't have this issue - as it's not a constant w/ DSN's product [the early 195 cases were most problematic IMO].

 

[hk45ca]

Re: stripped screw thread

However, given that one of the lug screw holes was stripped from the get-go, maybe that was a known flaw and the bars were sent to me to address the problem. If nobody else gets them then that is the answer.

This is bang-on. I hate to nit-pick as DSN is such a valued resource, but the issue that I have had - and still appears to be re-occur periodically - is the QC on the screws / lug thread.

It's good to know that David is providing a back-up w/ the spring-bars, but I'm still hoping mine won't have this issue - as it's not a constant w/ DSN's product [the early 195 cases were most problematic IMO].

the screws in my 195 and the buckel that came with it will work 1 time. if you try to use them a second time they strip.

 

[Novesh]

NOVESH - I have been applying light to this sucker all night trying to prove myself wrong, but it just isn't there. The hands have sufficient lume applied to them and anybody that has a recent Davidsen watch or has purchased hands for modding knows what I am talking about. They will weaken over time but still will have this useful glow well into the deep hours of the night, Not so the dial! This is just like standard rep glow. You can get a good burst of glow at first, but within the hour it almost goes completely away. This is not what I pay for in a super-lumed dial. It can't hold a candle to a Vacuum or a Ziggy re-lume (Pun totally intended). Now maybe this will be the case for the 1st watches out the door and is a matter of a lume mixing mixup on the 1st batch of dials and will be rectified with further production lots, but I know that I will need to bring it up Davidsen as somewhat of a deal breaker, bacause in my mind its just to obvious. I know that this is colored by expectations, but my expectations have not been satisfied in this one narrow area. Other then that this is a very cool effort.

We will see, if it some cheap rep lume I will be very upset, and it would be a definite deal breaker for me as well.

 

[watchlover]

Just got my watch and been reading through the thread....

here's a lume shot of my davidsen 082 VS The Seiko Monster:

EDIT: The lume exposure time is the same on both. Light source is a normal halogen lamp.

..dissapointing to say the least...

:shock:

 

[hk45ca]

Just got my watch and been reading through the thread....

here's a lume shot of my davidsen 082 VS The Seiko Monster:

..dissapointing to say the least...

:shock:

that is exactly how my new superlumed 195 dial looks. i was going to buy this 082, a 177h and a 111h and that is not going to happen now. i am so digusted with my 195 i put it in my watch box and i haven't even looked at it since.

i had already bought a 200.00 strap for this 082 but i threw it in the box with the 195.

 

[CISO1969]

I will say that Davidsen made good on a lot of issues I discovered besides the strapo size mixup. Two of my watches had some minor cosmetic issues that bugged me. The 3646 had the logo printed askew and a dimple--he sent a replacement. The Lug screw was bent on my 201a and he sent a replacement set (they are thicker then standard--hence no tubes needed I think) and he sent me free spring bars with my order and more with the parts he sent to replace the defective ones.

My PVD 195 screw bars were the standard thinner Panerai screws and did not have tubes. Hence my tube fetish

My two cents is that I am extremely pleased with his service and his quality. I just though th e didn't do "tuibes" hence my surprise that you got some

What I would say to you is send him the photo of the lume issues and explain that you think your dial may not be superlumed. He will make things right I am sure. Just remember to be polite and detailed as to the problem. A photo also helps

His actions with me -- standing behind his product-- spoke volumes about his character--he is A+ as far as I am concerned.

CISO

 

[tutima]

This appears to be the standard DS rep lume on the dial which is more or less the same as my DS 009 pvd. It needs to be relumed for sure.

 

[nite]

This lume problem seems to be the case only with sausage dials. Mine radiomir 183h from DNS is superlumed like it should be. And also his lumeshots of sandwich dialed pams seems perfect.