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Dandong 3285 clone movement
- Thread starter dogwood
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I contacted geektime and he confirmed that VSF will release a gmt master soon.
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Most likely. I'm not fully sure. As we've seen from the past few years, VSF tends to put true clones in there watches.
Counter point: VSF launched a series of forged carbon case GMTs in august that use the vr3186 movement. It seems odd that VSF would launch a niche GMT product with a VR movement if they were planning on launching a mainstream GMT product with a clone 3285 movement four months later.
That said, I hope I’m wrong and we will see a VSF superclone 3285 movement GMT.
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Tijdwijzer
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Dont forget these 'factorys' are criminal organisations, they do anything for profit. Scam, lie, change names, bring out a updated v2,v3,v4 and then bring other flaws.
For clarity, which part do you think isn’t likely? (Sorry for pedantic question, but I’m unclear on your response, and I’m hungry for any insight).
Agreed… but if I were running a machine shop and assembly line (criminal or otherwise) I’d want to minimize the variety of parts that I need to source or make. That is, try to reduce the number of different movements, hands, dials, crowns, cases, etc… so if I was a product/production manager at VSF and I knew that in three months we’d have a new clone 3285 movement from Dandong (which we’d have paid millions of dollars to develop), why would I tool up for a production run of carbon case GMTs that use the old vr3186 movement? I mean there could be lots of reasons… maybe the carbon GMTs are actually made by a small noname factory that’s using the VSF with or without permission (kinda like the BBR RMs are allegedly made by a wildcat factory that’s not true BBR). Or maybe a small workshop was going out of business and the VSF boss bought it as a favour to the owner, but inherited a production line that was already rolled up for carbon GMTs, so the boss is letting that workshop clear out their inventory before switching the tooling to other vsf models.
TL;DR: there are business reasons that make it not make sense, but myriad practical reasons that could have caused the circumstances we observe.
Judging by VSF track record, I’d probably buy it if there ever is such a thing as a VSF GMT. They have great crystals. If their GMT is similar to their 116610 subs, I’d buy it.
The thing with VSF is they don’t do the V2 V3 V4 upgrades. How many versions of the VSF datejust are there? The upgrades they do perform are pretty under the radar upgrades.
If it was Clean releasing a new line altogether, I’d wait till V3 or so.
The thing with VSF is they don’t do the V2 V3 V4 upgrades. How many versions of the VSF datejust are there? The upgrades they do perform are pretty under the radar upgrades.
If it was Clean releasing a new line altogether, I’d wait till V3 or so.
Getting GMT Master IIs AND Explorer IIs by VSF would be early Christmas!
I wonder if there is yet any updates re. launch date and availability for this... also, one would assume they'll basically produce a same-level quality for the 3285 to what they already did with 3135/3235 but curious to see actual photos and hands-on with these new movements.
Well the Movement is fact, its been developed. Months ago.
The thing is, AFAIK, there where lot of discussions which factory would by the largest amount on the first batch - this factory will have the first batch.
Sounds logical to me.
CLEAN is, not like lot of us think, a factory with LOT of money left: They use theyr winnings for getting out new models, almost every month in the past time.
Lets look forward.
The thing is, AFAIK, there where lot of discussions which factory would by the largest amount on the first batch - this factory will have the first batch.
Sounds logical to me.
CLEAN is, not like lot of us think, a factory with LOT of money left: They use theyr winnings for getting out new models, almost every month in the past time.
Lets look forward.
Oh... wow! I was about to splurge on the C+F GMT II and now I want to wait to see if the VSF rumours are true... and then Noob will probably return.
Me too - I stopped buying reps and bought a gen gmt (not r-factory) but now I must have the Vsf
Me too - I stopped buying reps and bought a gen gmt (not r-factory) but now I must have the Vsf
Yeah I saw that posted in another thread. Very interesting if true.
Although the rumor mill on WeChat mentioned two clone 3285 movements, one from Shanghai factory and one from Dandong. Honestly rumors about two new superclone 3285 moments make me more skeptical, not less. But we shall see. My fingers are crossed we’ll see something soon.
Indeed. Looks like the Dandong 3285 has been released.
Check these out. Release yesterday.