Comparison between the gen 4130 movement and the clean 4130 movement

[VenomGT3]

Wow thank you for doing this! The 4130 clone is truly the most impressive thing to happen in the rep world.

 

[Tompa]

But Why cant they clone the Balance wheel? The tiny screws on the Balance wheel is not there on the clone movment

 

[Tompa]

Thx for this post. This is Why i love rwi amazing work

 

[Dote_Anek]

I would like to thank you for your great effort. It hast have taken you days to put this together. I own a Daytona Rep with the 4130 and told a friend of mine only recently that this Rep provided me with the best Rolex experience to date (having some Gens). The movement is very accurate, the second counter zeros perfectly and runs for at least 3 days when not worn.

 

[Procurator]

But Why cant they clone the Balance wheel? The tiny screws on the Balance wheel is not there on the clone movment

Id say too much complexity.
Same story with the main chrono wheel.

 

[GrandmasterChime]

Excellent work

But Why cant they clone the Balance wheel? The tiny screws on the Balance wheel is not there on the clone movment

That's a very precise piece of kit. Short answer they don't have too

 

[Tompa]

@CTime is the clean/BTF 4130 ”better” then the old noob one’s? In the begining of the clean 4130 everyone said noobs movments was better/more stabile. What is your opinion? I have many noobs and a few clean and BTF and i think its a ”better” feel when winding on my old noobs but pr are better on the clean, on clean its a verry grindy sound, not smoth, The BTF i have are smother , more like the old noobs. But maybe its just luck/unluck? Intresting to hear your opinion on it. Maybe they will be smoth if i service them.

 

[SuperLory]

@CTime is the clean/BTF 4130 ”better” then the old noob one’s? In the begining of the clean 4130 everyone said noobs movments was better/more stabile. What is your opinion? I have many noobs and a few clean and BTF and i think its a ”better” feel when winding on my old noobs but pr are better on the clean, on clean its a verry grindy sound, not smoth, The BTF i have are smother , more like the old noobs. But maybe its just luck/unluck? Intresting to hear your opinion on it. Maybe they will be smoth if i service them.

I share the same feedback.

When you wind a CF is like nails on a chalkboard

 

[ABC123]

amazing...thanks you

 

[cyprusdaedalus]

I actually prefer the clone balance wheel... cuz I can actually easily regulate the movement without the fancy rolex tools to adjust the weights on the gen rolex balance. Amazing post from CTime regardless!

 

[dogwood]

Outstanding review @CTime the effort that went into this is huge and the result is very informative.

I would love to see a similar review of the vs3135 and vs3235 compared to gen 3135 / 3235.

 

[KJ2020]

Beautiful pics, really appreciate the effort.

 

[CTime]

But Why cant they clone the Balance wheel? The tiny screws on the Balance wheel is not there on the clone movment

I can only say that sometimes it's not a good thing for them to make a rep exactly the same as gen.... But technically it is not hard to achive

 

[CTime]

@CTime is the clean/BTF 4130 ”better” then the old noob one’s? In the begining of the clean 4130 everyone said noobs movments was better/more stabile. What is your opinion? I have many noobs and a few clean and BTF and i think its a ”better” feel when winding on my old noobs but pr are better on the clean, on clean its a verry grindy sound, not smoth, The BTF i have are smother , more like the old noobs. But maybe its just luck/unluck? Intresting to hear your opinion on it. Maybe they will be smoth if i service them.

Clean/BT/Noob they all use the same movement from Dandong. For the function and stability of 4130, there is no big update on that. So the winding problem is only a probability condition. This happens to all 4130 from different batch. And we've tested many watches, most of them are very smoth.

 

[heska]

Wow, impressive side to side!
@CTime do you plan to do this with clone 3135?

 

[Chee284868]

Beautifully documented, as the other posts you've recently made.

 

[Tobel]

This is next level comparison man, Impress work!

 

[JeanClaudeKilly]

I am curious to hear if anyone has swapped gen parts in, and how it performed/what adjustments needed to be made.

 

[dogwood]

I am curious to hear if anyone has swapped gen parts in, and how it performed/what adjustments needed to be made.

Yes:

Project: Installing Gen Parts on 4130 Daytona Movement

With my project to install gen parts on a VS3235 movement currently stalled while I wait for a gen 3235 pallet fork, I opted to start my other gen parts project... installing a gen balance complete, balance bridge, and chronograph seconds wheel on my Noob 4130 Daytona. This will be my first time...

forum.replica-watch.info

 

[mmaggi]

That's a rough looking gen movement

It should be called dandong 4130 as it's the same in various new Daytona models not only clean.

Glad a respected Watch Maker replied as I was thinking the exact same thing.

GREAT JOB by @CTime!!!!!