Just wanted to ad my 5c worth on this release. I got mine slightly used from a mate (not worn really) and originated from Li. Paid US 500+ incl shipping originally so the top end model. For all the pixel peepers, just live with the fact that this is by far the best rep available at this kind of price and know you are wearing a rep/fake. IMO this is just a stunning piece of kit, and although 500 bucks is not exactly pocket change you are def getting your money's worth. The movement is just stunning actually if you think about it. I personally appreciate the lighter bezel action and the clasp action compared to my ZZF V3 40mm no date sub which is still ticking along fine after 2 years and as a previous daily wearer, still looks like new. Diver extension also a lot smother than the ZZF (which was then the best version rep all round available according to many) No rep will be flawless or else there wont be anything to update for the next release, so that stands to reason. What I'm saying is, if you have the money, buy it, wear it and stop worrying about it. It is so close to the original that only a real expert would even possibly tell the difference if he had both in hand. Sometimes for fun I ask some mates to tell which is gen between my 40mm ZZF and this 41mm version and everyone thinks the one or the other is the gen but they don't know why when they are both in fact reps. That's my 5c worth.. Enjoy and regards.