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Clean Facotry Upcoming Daytona Models and OysterFlex Strap Info

KJ2020

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I looked at the pics of the DIWF Black Rainbow Daytona ... and it seems the chrono subdials at 3 and 9 position are also moving ... I thought that's not possible with Asia 7750 movement?! ... they usually are just faux and have no function then?! Does anyone know how it is with this model?

Chronos work on most rep 7750s. It's just "standard practice" not to use them because often the native subdial positions of 6 9 12 have to be moved or functions swapped. This involves using extra gears and transfer plates which are lower quality and if something breaks it can disable more than just the chronos.

The ARF 7750 is the one with frozen 3 9 subdials, another mod done to achieve gen-like thinness. Now there are slim 7750s with fully functional chronos.
 

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Does anyone know if CF is coming out with a meteorite Daytona model?


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Does anyone know if CF is coming out with a meteorite Daytona model?


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I don’t know, but the smart money is on: YES. The smart money is also on: it’ll have a shit laser printed dial, not a real slice of meteorite; so you’ll have to franken it with an aftermarket real meteorite dial to make it look acceptable.
 

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Chronos work on most rep 7750s. It's just "standard practice" not to use them because often the native subdial positions of 6 9 12 have to be moved or functions swapped. This involves using extra gears and transfer plates which are lower quality and if something breaks it can disable more than just the chronos.

The ARF 7750 is the one with frozen 3 9 subdials, another mod done to achieve gen-like thinness. Now there are slim 7750s with fully functional chronos.


Ah, interesting. I thought on most 7750s the 3 and 9 chrono subdials don't work (I read that quite often in the description of the watches (and sometimes it's not clearly mentioned)) ... also because it was such a breakthrough with the superclones with 4130 movement and the advertised "now fully functional chrono incl. subdials".

Hm, are the 7750s with fully functional chronos then also working "correctly" ... I mean like the 4130: counting 30min rounds on the 3 subdial and 1h rounds on the 9 subdial?
If they (the 7750s) now are also slim so that the case can have gen-like thinness ... wow. I hope the much more expensive 4130s are then still worth their money?!
 

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Ah, interesting. I thought on most 7750s the 3 and 9 chrono subdials don't work (I read that quite often in the description of the watches (and sometimes it's not clearly mentioned)) ... also because it was such a breakthrough with the superclones with 4130 movement and the advertised "now fully functional chrono incl. subdials".

Hm, are the 7750s with fully functional chronos then also working "correctly" ... I mean like the 4130: counting 30min rounds on the 3 subdial and 1h rounds on the 9 subdial?
If they (the 7750s) now are also slim so that the case can have gen-like thinness ... wow. I hope the much more expensive 4130s are then still worth their money?!

yes 7750 are as slim as the 4130 today and work likewise.

They are a cheap alternative and will not drag the price of dandong 4130 models down: they are not clone movements, they are reworked 7750 and inherently lower grade. They have some subtle but evident flaws: the base of the hands is much larger (on top of not accepting gen hands obviously) and the pushers are longer.

One is a CLONE movement and one of the best clones we have as of today; the other is not.
 

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BTF is crushing CF in the time to market race. I wonder about the value of being first vs being right (read: fewer or less noticeable flaws). Do you think there’s a substantial first to market advantage for a factory in terms of sales? Or do you think that the fall off in sales after the excitement of the launch isn’t huge (read another way: launches don’t produce big sales spikes), so a factory does better in the long run by producing a better rep?

I’m a business guy, and I’m really curious how the investment decisions are made at the factory executive level. Should we invest in repping a new model? Should we revamp an old release to a new version? Is it worth developing a clone movement? Etc etc… the business is huge and the dollars sloshing around are non-trivial, but due to the illegal nature of the business, basically nothing is public ally known.
 

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I’m a business guy, and I’m really curious how the investment decisions are made at the factory executive level. Should we invest in repping a new model? Should we revamp an old release to a new version? Is it worth developing a clone movement? Etc etc… the business is huge and the dollars sloshing around are non-trivial, but due to the illegal nature of the business, basically nothing is public ally known.


This "illegal nature of the business" just got me thinking ... after missing it when it came out back then, I now finally watched "Breaking Bad", the whole 5 seasons, OMG, loved it! ;P

So if this "illegal business" series arguably got to be the best series of all time ... I wonder how a series in this style bout the rep watch industry would hit the streaming market, hah!
I see some real drama potential there with secret agents from the big luxury watch companies trying to track down the high end rep factories ... some young watch clerk rising to big money and fame by being the boss of some "NOOB Factory" ... with big action when all goes down in flames when they make fatal raids, haha, would be AWESOME stuff. And there even could be some "blue crystal" involved, although it's not Meth this time ;) but the glasses for the watches (thinking of the blue tint of the CF Daytona v1 glass, lol) ...

After all the rep watches definitely cause some addictive behaviour in most of us ... and Netflix always needs some new content anyway, right?! ;D
 
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I wonder how a series in this style bout the rep watch industry would hit the streaming market, hah! I see some real drama potential there with secret agents from the big luxury watch companies trying to track down the high end rep factories ...

I'd watch if they can sign up Jet Li to play Andrew from TrustyTime....then there could be some badass fight scenes as the dealers are raided! :p
 
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yes 7750 are as slim as the 4130 today and work likewise.

They are a cheap alternative and will not drag the price of dandong 4130 models down: they are not clone movements, they are reworked 7750 and inherently lower grade. They have some subtle but evident flaws: the base of the hands is much larger (on top of not accepting gen hands obviously) and the pushers are longer.

One is a CLONE movement and one of the best clones we have as of today; the other is not.

Can I add on too, that the slim 7750 daytonas achieve the gen like thickness by sinking their xtal too low in order to compensate for the thick midcase. Which causes the watch to look and feel funny for those who have owned the 4130 reps and gens...

But the 7750 is still a good option as it's priced at 50% of the 4130 variant and a good introduction to daytonas for newcomers.

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I'm very excited about the new OysterFlex straps, but I'm confused on the sizing. Anyone have experience with these or the gen versions?

Doesn't the sizing all depend on the model of watch being used due to the clasp length? In other words, shouldn't you need shorter straps for a Daytona, which has a longer clasp, and vice versa for something like a YM?

According to other forums, for a Daytona my 7.75" wrist needs an F+F with the clasp in the shortest position, or possibly an E+F with the clasp in the middle/long position. But according to the Clean Factory sizing photos, there's a blanket implication that none of the combinations will fit anything over a 19.2 cm wrist. That would be a major bummer if true.
 

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Hi guys

News heard from Clean Factory.
They are going to release many more Daytona new models very soon, likely around end of April 2022.
Some popular models like 116519LN, 116508 Green Dial etc.

Those dials shown as follows are genuine dials the factory prepared for replicating (Not all the dials they have)

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Here are 2 pictures of 116508 rep dial vs genuine blow too:
The red line on this rep sample dial is kinda too bright still, and they are trying to adjust this before the official release.

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We also got their new made OysterFlex rubber strap (will be used on their new rubber strap Daytona models) earlier today.
Some info and pictures shared as follows:

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Some extra info, they are doing nice quality AP rubber straps for 15500 models now too.
Based on my daily inquiries received from customers, many people are look for a good quality aftermarket rubber strap for Royal Oak models.
So these ones shall be a very good choice by now.

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Wish you all the best.

Hey Li, any news? Thanks.
 
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What combination of straps come delivered with the CF Oysterflex Daytona's? Do TD's let you choose the size of the straps?
 
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