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Black Bay Black GEN vs Rep comparison

gsxcbr1

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Hi all, I loved my Black Bay Black rep so much that I bought a GEN! I found a second hand deal that I just couldn't pass up. Having both pieces now I wanted to share some thoughts and photos.
First of all, the rep is scary good! When I went to look at the GEN, I expected to immediately see a big noticeable difference in the crystal shape and dial texture. This wasn't the case, in fact, I was initially worried I might have a scammer trying to sell me another rep! After spending a little more time I was able to verify authenticity. The crown action and bezel feel were really what gave me the assurance and after spending more time with it I can now really see the differences:


  • Bezel action on the rep is good, but the GEN is the best of any watch I've ever handled. The GEN bezel clicks have satisfying "snap" to them that I've never felt before.
  • The GEN crown winds and sets like butter, noticeably smoother than the rep.
  • The rep still has the date setting crown position which is a dead giveaway. GEN crown pulls out one position to set the time. Rep crown moves out one position for setting a nonexistent date, and then a second position to set the time
  • GEN dial is a deeper black with a very subtle texture, rep dial is more smooth in comparison
  • GEN dial printing is just slightly better
  • Lume is brighter and more evenly applied on the GEN, rep lume color appears to be a slightly different shade of green
  • In daylight, GEN lume has more of a vintage/cream color while the rep has a slight green tinge.
  • Rose crown engraving is thicker and deeper on the GEN
  • Crystal is maybe 1mm taller on the GEN, I was expecting to see more of a difference in the edge bevel but the rep crystal is extremely close.
  • Bracelets are damn close in construction and feel, GEN engravings are slightly deeper

Overall, I'm actually way more impressed with the rep now that I own the GEN. On the wrist it's virtually impossible to tell the difference.

GEN always on the left:

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BuddhistGirafe

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Nice comparison. Been looking to get a new piece to add to the rotation. This could be it!
 

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Great comparison. Thank you! One thing that has always bugged me is the poor quality Tudor rose logo on the rep dial, looks like it's missing a petal on the left hand side.
 
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The differences are there but it´s very close. That lume shot on the gen is stunning.
Loved the detailed differences list very well done - and thx for the pics:)
 

SuperHero

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Thx for the side by side. The logo on the gen looks intricate and looks like it's been applied a few times to get depth. Beautiful. I agree with the bezel action of gen Tudors, my Pelagos is simply amazing and the best of anything I've ever handled.

After comparison, what are your Impressions on:
*weight
*case bevels
*Dial & bezel insert texture

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gsxcbr1

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One thing that has always bugged me is the poor quality Tudor rose logo on the rep dial, looks like it's missing a petal on the left hand side.

Honestly, the rose on the dial is so tiny you can't see the difference unless magnified and even then it's hard to tell unless you have them side by side!
 

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Honestly, the rose on the dial is so tiny you can't see the difference unless magnified and even then it's hard to tell unless you have them side by side!
Maybe. But it would be a simple fix on an otherwise great rep.
 

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Thanks for the comparison on a watch I really like and am considering going gem.
I don't know why the rep factories cannot improve the engraving on the crown.
 

gsxcbr1

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After comparison, what are your Impressions on:
*weight
*case bevels
*Dial & bezel insert texture

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I wish I had a scale to weigh them! They both feel substantial and I really can't feel a difference just by holding them in my hands.

The beveling or finishing on the back side of the case is slightly better on the GEN. The rep has some sharper edges but it's not a difference that you really see, it's quite subtle.

The GEN dial does have a little more texture, but again it's a very subtle difference. The only way you'd notice on the rep is in direct sunlight with the GEN right next to it. The bezel insert looks spot on to my eyes! Texture, printing, triangle color and placement along with the pearl all look just like the GEN.
 

SuperHero

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I wish I had a scale to weigh them! They both feel substantial and I really can't feel a difference just by holding them in my hands.

The beveling or finishing on the back side of the case is slightly better on the GEN. The rep has some sharper edges but it's not a difference that you really see, it's quite subtle.

The GEN dial does have a little more texture, but again it's a very subtle difference. The only way you'd notice on the rep is in direct sunlight with the GEN right next to it. The bezel insert looks spot on to my eyes! Texture, printing, triangle color and placement along with the pearl all look just like the GEN.

Thx for the update and sounds like the rep is a winner! The strap that comes with the gen is awesome... Enjoy your acquisition!

BTW Possible Future Collectible: the new ones will have shield logo (modified text too) riveted bracelet and in house movement. SO if I am correct, this model will only be manufactured in this configuration for one year. A keeper.

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gsxcbr1

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BTW Possible Future Collectible: the new ones will have shield logo (modified text too) riveted bracelet and in house movement. SO if I am correct, this model will only be manufactured in this configuration for one year. A keeper.

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This new release is part of the reason I made a move on this gen purchase. I don't like the riveted bracelet, I prefer the rose logo over the shield, I like the vintage style smiling "self winding" text, and I could care less about the in-house movement! I felt like the original version black may be harder to get in the future so I had to go for it.
 

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This new release is part of the reason I made a move on this gen purchase. I don't like the riveted bracelet, I prefer the rose logo over the shield, I like the vintage style smiling "self winding" text, and I could care less about the in-house movement! I felt like the original version black may be harder to get in the future so I had to go for it.

Great choice!
 

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Thx for the update and sounds like the rep is a winner! The strap that comes with the gen is awesome... Enjoy your acquisition!

BTW Possible Future Collectible: the new ones will have shield logo (modified text too) riveted bracelet and in house movement. SO if I am correct, this model will only be manufactured in this configuration for one year. A keeper.

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Where can i find more info on this?
Nevermind, it's obviously on their website...
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Aromatik

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Thanks for this review! It would be nice to get a close up comparaison between both pearl/red triangle. It doesn't look as good on the rep...


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SuperHero

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Q: where are the holes for the spring bars located on the rep? I know on the gen they are pretty low. When wearing the strap, it shows lots of case as its wide but perhaps they are "better" located on the rep....

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