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Bezel and Dial Review of ZZF V2S 116610LV Submariner and Comparison vs. Gen, ARF V3 and Noob V10
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I received mine last night.
First impressions are that it's very nice on wrist, out of the box. Here are my comments on the flaws:
1) The X flaw is so minor and not noticeable on wrist. It doesn't bother me at all. Overall the dial printing is crisp and beautiful. The dial is gorgeous too.
2) The end-link fitment is not great. While mine has no gaps, the 12 o'clock SEL is way too recessed. The bottom 6 o'clock one is better and gen link.
3) The bracelet is nice but needs an oil bath. Unfortunately I haven't yet been successful getting the bracelet off. The 6 o'clock end link was tight but after much effort I got it off. But the 12 o'clock one is way too tight that it won't even budge. I'll have to keep working on it.
4) Crystal cyclops has nice mag and date wheel font is good and well aligned. But there's no black hole whatsoever.
I'll try to post some pics later. It's such a chore posting pics lol!
First impressions are that it's very nice on wrist, out of the box. Here are my comments on the flaws:
1) The X flaw is so minor and not noticeable on wrist. It doesn't bother me at all. Overall the dial printing is crisp and beautiful. The dial is gorgeous too.
2) The end-link fitment is not great. While mine has no gaps, the 12 o'clock SEL is way too recessed. The bottom 6 o'clock one is better and gen link.
3) The bracelet is nice but needs an oil bath. Unfortunately I haven't yet been successful getting the bracelet off. The 6 o'clock end link was tight but after much effort I got it off. But the 12 o'clock one is way too tight that it won't even budge. I'll have to keep working on it.
4) Crystal cyclops has nice mag and date wheel font is good and well aligned. But there's no black hole whatsoever.
I'll try to post some pics later. It's such a chore posting pics lol!
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Joke right? It is very close, still like the dial on arf better, better black effect.
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If arf insert is close to gen then the zzf dial is close to gen you cay it that way,arf insert isnt close to gen while zzf (cleanv3) is almost identical to gen,you can say that arf have better black effect dial but even with that it isnt even close to gen color,also date is too bold and with that zzf is of course better out of box with better and almost identical to gen insert,decent dial with perfect markers and crisp and corect dial print,more reliable movement
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My zzf v2s just arrived
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My zzf v2s just arrived
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Amazing wear it in good health
where are you located and how much did take all shipping process? Im little impatient with waiting
And that's what's nice about this hobby. There are such good choices for all of us at this point in time. But they all all replicas, and they each have their own flaws. You have to pick the one with the flaws you can most live with. For me, I do not like the crown lugs, bracelet, and the movement of the bezel on the ZZF. The ARF on the other hand has better bezel movement and a better bracelet - but the lugs are thicker than gen or ZZF. For me, I much prefer the ARF as I can live with its flaws out of the box much more over the ZZF. Others might be different, and that's ok. What flaws can you most live with? It's up to each of us to decide.
As far as the dial and insert colors go, they seem VERY close to me as you can see my the pics below (ZZF vs2 on the left, ARF V3 on the right). Final pic is of two ARF V3's.
My zzf v2s just arrived
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What an amazing Polex
great watch
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And that's what's nice about this hobby. There are such good choices for all of us at this point in time. But they all all replicas, and they each have their own flaws. You have to pick the one with the flaws you can most live with. For me, I do not like the crown lugs, bracelet, and the movement of the bezel on the ZZF. The ARF on the other hand has better bezel movement and a better bracelet - but the lugs are thicker than gen or ZZF. For me, I much prefer the ARF as I can live with its flaws out of the box much more over the ZZF. Others might be different, and that's ok. What flaws can you most live with? It's up to each of us to decide.
As far as the dial and insert colors go, they seem VERY close to me as you can see my the pics below (ZZF vs2 on the left, ARF V3 on the right). Final pic is of two ARF V3's.
Lol every insert is close on low light,put it on high light and you will see too much difference and that bold DW no thanks
im big fan of arf dont get me wrong,i like the bracelet i had 2 watches from arf and satisfied with build quality,but really arf hulk cant stand against zzf out of box,imo
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I aranged triangle shipping via the UK to the Netherlands but i Won’t opt for that no more. As soon as it ‘leaves’ the UK, it says:
last order it stayed on that status for 24 days, I had to contact a lot before I got it. With my current order, it has this status again, for 10 days and counting.
anyone familiar with this status?
last order it stayed on that status for 24 days, I had to contact a lot before I got it. With my current order, it has this status again, for 10 days and counting.
anyone familiar with this status?
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And that's why it's good to have such good choices to chose from. I have a gen sub and I just can't stand the crown lugs on the ZZF. For me, it's a dead give away. I purposely went with the 2824 movement for the better DW which seems spot on to my gen. As far as the dial and insert goes, from the pics I've seen in all different lighting conditions they are very close. Close enough that I don't care if it's spot on as on with my gen bluesy the color changes so much in different lighting conditions it never looks the same anyway.
Bottom line, there is no perfect replica. We each see things differently and certain things may bug you but not me - and that's ok. We all see things differently.
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And that's why it's good to have such good choices to chose from. I have a gen sub and I just can't stand the crown lugs on the ZZF. For me, it's a dead give away. I purposely went with the 2824 movement for the better DW which seems spot on to my gen. As far as the dial and insert goes, from the pics I've seen in all different lighting conditions they are very close. Close enough that I don't care if it's spot on as on with my gen bluesy the color changes so much in different lighting conditions it never looks the same anyway.
Bottom line, there is no perfect replica. We each see things differently and certain things may bug you but not me - and that's ok. We are all see things differently.
I aggre that no rep is perfect,and never will be because factories always something approve and something ruin... what i saw on noob daytona thread this is crazy what they do,from too thick subdials to latest super thin subdials which is double thinner than gen
I aranged triangle shipping via the UK to the Netherlands but i Won’t opt for that no more. As soon as it ‘leaves’ the UK, it says:
last order it stayed on that status for 24 days, I had to contact a lot before I got it. With my current order, it has this status again, for 10 days and counting.
anyone familiar with this status?
Hi mate, same issue over here. Contacted PostNL, see below.
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Do u even have the zzf? Please show me picture where it is better.. I got arf, we can compare.
I've had ARF, ZZF V2, ZZF V2s and have the gen too, no insert is as close as last ZZF V2s.
