ARF vs. VSF DateJust 41 126334

[KJ2020]

Nice summary, from your pics I also like the deeper blue contrast of ARF.

The 126610 VSF takes a 3135 DW (they used the wrong date plate here), however the DJ41 in VSF takes the gen 3235 DW, I have confirmed this from my Watchmaker.

Probably the 126610 VSF 3135 date plate was necessary since the dial is the older style 3135 dial with dial feet. So for a 3235, the 126610 VSF dial is not gen-spec.

VSF used the new 3235 style dial in the DJ41. It has no feet and so the 3235 date plate has no feet holes in it. The dial is friction fit, the lower rims hug the movement. Rotation is prevented by stubs protruding from the movement.

(Pics borrowed from other threads]

 

[srhoque]

Probably the 126610 VSF 3135 date plate was necessary since the dial is the older style 3135 dial with dial feet. So for a 3235, the 126610 VSF dial is not gen-spec.

VSF used the new 3235 style dial in the DJ41. It has no feet and so the 3235 date plate has no feet holes in it. The dial is friction fit, the lower rims hug the movement. Rotation is prevented by stubs protruding from the movement.

(Pics borrowed from other threads]

You got it KJ!! That's exactly correct. In future they will probably fix the 126610 dials also.

 

[Duckber]

I'd take the ARF dial over VSF any day, genlike or not. VSF is washed in comparison. ARF dial on VSF is probably the nicest build at the moment.

 

[KJ2020]

I'd take the ARF dial over VSF any day, genlike or not. VSF is washed in comparison. ARF dial on VSF is probably the nicest build at the moment.

You would have to either clip the ARF dial feet and use dial dots (eww) or drill holes into the VSF 3235 date plate (challenging and possibly not feasible due to placement issues).

Another solution could be to drill holes in the VSF 3235 date plate in places where there are no issues due to other elements being in the way, and reglue feet onto the ARF dial in those acceptable spots.

 

[srhoque]

I'd take the ARF dial over VSF any day, genlike or not. VSF is washed in comparison. ARF dial on VSF is probably the nicest build at the moment.

I hear you Have owned the ARF Blue for a long time now (since their v1). The blue is deeper with stronger hues and goes through infinite color variations. The big problem is the dial gets too dark during some light conditions. I don't know about VSF but the gen blue in sunlight is pure magic!!

 

[Snil]

I haven’t seen an ARF in real life but saying that the VSF dial is dull or boring is hilarious imo. I would only change it to a gen dial if anything

 

[Duckber]

I haven’t seen an ARF in real life but saying that the VSF dial is dull or boring is hilarious imo. I would only change it to a gen dial if anything

This is relatively speaking. On its own it's fine. Put it near the ARF and ARF just looks better. Gen dial or bust makes little sense to me but to each their own.

 

[jiro]

I haven’t seen an ARF in real life but saying that the VSF dial is dull or boring is hilarious imo. I would only change it to a gen dial if anything

VSF still is best looking out of the box 126334 for sure, especially with 3235 movement.

Trust me....I really wanted to like it's dial....but just can't....more I look at it...i just can't.

that's why i'm going after gen dial now....

 

[Akilles]

Not sure which memberthat justshared this fine comparison pic. Gen to the left and VSF on the right. I don't really understand people that say VSF has a lack of sunburst. Am I blind?

There are like 100 more comparison pics here, I don't neee to repost them all but it looks like VSF is about 95% correct i dial

 

[YellowFin]

Akilles Blue one's halfway OK but not on gen level. VSF's Rhodium is worse, you have to see that in hand. Very obviously wrong...

 

[Akilles]

Akilles Blue one's halfway OK but not on gen level. VSF's Rhodium is worse, you have to see that in hand. Very obviously wrong...

I guess that's subjective but imo looking at pic I just posted and some others I would say it's a bit more than "halfway" to gen...!?

But again, we all see different and some say a wrong letter in the rehaut is an instant tell but I'm just trying to see things realistic without beeing too negative.

 

[jiro]

I guess that's subjective but imo looking at pic I just posted and some others I would say it's a bit more than "halfway" to gen...!?

But again, we all see different and some say a wrong letter in the rehaut is an instant tell but I'm just trying to see things realistic without beeing too negative.

Those pictures were what made me pull the trigger on VSF. But in real life, it was a different story, at least it was for me.

Please don't get me wrong, it still is an awesome piece. I just have an obsession over this blue dial, that's all. you can call me crazy..... cuz I do. lol

 

[Duckber]

I guess that's subjective but imo looking at pic I just posted and some others I would say it's a bit more than "halfway" to gen...!?

But again, we all see different and some say a wrong letter in the rehaut is an instant tell but I'm just trying to see things realistic without beeing too negative.

One picture taken in certain lighting doesn't say everything.

 

[Akilles]

One picture taken in certain lighting doesn't say everything.

Never said one picture says everything if you read what I wrote. I have seen plenty of comparison pics. Just don't want to spam with pictures you have already seen.

Nevertheless. I haven't hold gen next to VSF irl so maybe it's only halfway there. Maybe even 1/10 of gen. It depends on who you ask.

Read post #1228. This member takes comparison pics on gen and VSF and even states that he "got them mixed up a few times".

https://forum.replica-watch.info/fo...26334-with-vs3235-72hrs-power-reserve/page123

 

[jiro]

As far as sunburst goes, neither are correct.

ARF is bit too strong and VSF is bit too weak.

Hopefully VSF can come up with improved dial with a bit stronger sunburst and deeper blue color.

 

[guillaumelagier]

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hi, thank you for this nice comparison, please, is there a difference in shine at the bezel? I believe I heard that VSF uses rhodium plating, is this true or false?

MANY THANKS!!

 

[Bombardier]

I don't know what would VSF come up with on their 2nd version if this is their first attempt.

 

[GG2019]

Does anyone know if the arf bracelet fits the vsf case ??

 

[onewatch2018]

jiro may I ask, are the jubilee bracelets between then vsf and arf similar? I found the vsf jubilee bracelet more flimsy as compared to the gen.

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[Daytonamania]

Probably the 126610 VSF 3135 date plate was necessary since the dial is the older style 3135 dial with dial feet. So for a 3235, the 126610 VSF dial is not gen-spec.

VSF used the new 3235 style dial in the DJ41. It has no feet and so the 3235 date plate has no feet holes in it. The dial is friction fit, the lower rims hug the movement. Rotation is prevented by stubs protruding from the movement.

(Pics borrowed from other threads]

So would i be able to fit a VSF dial on an ARF with existing gen DW?