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ARF GMT 116710 SH3186 photo review

KerwinKey

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Just received my QC. I noticed that the 12pm marker is misaligned and the date window is misaligned too.

Will ask for a straight photo to confirm.
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mrsullivan

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I don't think they are misaligned, just an optical effect from the different pics angle.

If you don't take this watch I will!!

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KJ2020

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Just received my QC. I noticed that the 12pm marker is misaligned and the date window is misaligned too.

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12 o'clock marker is tilted slightly anti-clockwise. Bottom tip should align with coronet center spire.

Nothing is wrong with the date window. The problem is the crystal is rotated clockwise a degree or two. Also the cyclops upper and lower edges are not parallel, so even if the crystal were rotated anti-clockwise so the top edge is level, the bottom edge would still be crooked. Best you could do is "spliit the difference" and it wouldn't be very obvious.

Rotating the crystal takes some effort and is not without risk. The bezel and the crystal retaining ring have to come off, crystal is rotated and everything pressed back into place. I've seen the unparallel cyclops edge issue on some other ARFs, it might be a crystal batch issue.

This one has a straight 12 o'clock marker. It also has the unparallel cyclops edge issue, but it looks OK because the upper edge is level.

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KerwinKey

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12 o'clock marker is tilted slightly anti-clockwise. Bottom tip should align with coronet center spire.

Nothing is wrong with the date window. The problem is the crystal is rotated clockwise a degree or two. Also the cyclops upper and lower edges are not parallel, so even if the crystal were rotated anti-clockwise so the top edge is level, the bottom edge would still be crooked. Best you could do is "spliit the difference" and it wouldn't be very obvious.

Rotating the crystal takes some effort and is not without risk. The bezel and the crystal retaining ring have to come off, crystal is rotated and everything pressed back into place. I've seen the unparallel cyclops edge issue on some other ARFs, it might be a crystal batch issue.

This one has a straight 12 o'clock marker. It also has the unparallel cyclops edge issue, but it looks OK because the upper edge is level.

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Thank you KJ for your in-depth analysis of my concern. Really appreciate it and now I understand what is wrong with it.

I have communicated my concern to my TD.
Cheers!

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exia78

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Just received my QC. I noticed that the 12pm marker is misaligned and the date window is misaligned too.

Will ask for a straight photo to confirm.
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8e2861f01008bf4f3d90225d89d6b491.jpg


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How long did it take from ordering to getting the QC pic? which TD did you use? Thanks
 

KerwinKey

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How long did it take from ordering to getting the QC pic? which TD did you use? Thanks
I ordered from ChazingTime since 03 Dec 19. A little disappointed due to the mis-aligned marker and crystal after such a long wait.

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KerwinKey

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This is the new photo I have obtained. I think it's quite apparent here that it's not aligned as it should..????
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thediesel17

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how have the ARF movements been so far?

a few people said that they changed it for the VR movement, just wondering if that’s really necessary..
 

KJ2020

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This is the new photo I have obtained. I think it's quite apparent here that it's not aligned as it should..????
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The two flaws you noted are still there. Neither is horrible and would likely be less concerning after you have the watch for awhile. I have a couple reps that have minor flaws which I've worn without noticing the flaws again. You have to decide.
 

KerwinKey

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The two flaws you noted are still there. Neither is horrible and would likely be less concerning after you have the watch for awhile. I have a couple reps that have minor flaws which I've worn without noticing the flaws again. You have to decide.
Thank you KJ for the confirmation once again, appreciate it. I have talked to my TD and he agreed to change a new piece for me.

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cooper1

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There must be something about date windows. I bought a GMF Batman (not from a TD on here) and the window on three examples i saw were all crooked. I picked the less obvious one.

Poor form for something that is that obvious. How they pass factory QC is beyond me
 
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Hans81

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The two flaws you noted are still there. Neither is horrible and would likely be less concerning after you have the watch for awhile. I have a couple reps that have minor flaws which I've worn without noticing the flaws again. You have to decide.

Agree, In would accept that one, nobody will ever notice on your wrist!
 
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Cranberry2

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someone got the problem with the ARF that the (Hairspring Balance) is broken?
i was wondering why the hell the watch was going so bad wrong....4-5 hours per day.

now a watchman checked it and said this part is broken.....
is the part expensive?
 

leo6929

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Those bezel numbers are like the gen ones... been waiting for this for a long time. But will hold out for the Batman :)
 
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