Not sure if anyone has mentioned but the ARF has also i stunning gen like 3D/elevated gold print on the dial as well. My Noob v8 has not
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ARF Blue Two Tone Submariner
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So far (like 7 days) great
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Closeup. But we want CLOSE-ERRR...lol
JF dial and insert in a VRF case
Lol, no problem buddy!!
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Here are some more...Great shots guys! Keep them coming! I bought a JF LB for a friend but it has the flat blue dial. I'm more of a fan of this sunburst. I already have the ARF 116610 but I'm a sucker for this version. Akilles both watches side by side helps a lot.
I kind of like the blue dial color more on the rep than the gen lol...
I still don't understand where people say the lugs are too fat on the ARF. I must be blind I guess...
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116613 LB ARF (stock) vs JF (slightly modded) Mini Comparison Review
I am very lucky and bought an ARF blusey from a member on repgreek (thank you very much @indywatchguy). I have a JF blusey, why not take some side by side pictures and do a mini comparison review.
ARF and JF are good OOTB choices and I hope this comparison can help some members when they make their decision.
ARF is always on the left/first (dated 2nd) and JF is always on the right/second (dated 23nd)
The ARF is fully stock. Very luckily, this watch is plated sel.
The JF is slightly modded. The original date font is fat and ugly. I bought a way nicer SH 3135 datewheel and have my watchsmith replaced. I also modded the bracelet using a gold paint pen.
Please note that the comment below is just my experience with these two watches and my humble opinion. I am no expert.
Price Breakdown (if you buy new from TD)
ARF
$498 from TD plus shipping (around $30 to the USA)
Not guarantee the sel is plated
JF
$438 new fromTD, but you can buy it m2m for way cheaper
Nicer SH 3135 datewheel $15
Datewheel installation and water pressure $50
Gold paint pen $10
Total investment: $574
Gold
Both is plated. ARF is a little lighter and very close to gen in my opinion.
Case
ARF
ARF has 903L, fat lug, but I cannot tell to be honest, I saw on the blusey thread that is a common issue for ARF
JF
JF has 316L
Both very solid, cannot tell any difference.
Dial
Both have very good color (not 100% correct to gen but still very close). Sunburst is great.
Looks like ARf has a little bigger hour marker.
Print / text
Both has 3D effect text in my eye.
Hands
I cannot tell the difference
Lume
Both ARF and JF lume are very outstanding and long lasting with nice blue color.
Date font and alignment
JF stock font is fat and ugly. I replaced it. ARF has both nice and fat date wheel. Looks like the older batch has fat date font. My ARf has nice date font.
Rehaut
ARF
The rehaut is perfectly aligned and clear
JF
The rehaut is aligned but not as clear as ARF.
Crystal
Both ARF and JF have very good blackhole effect, not as good as gen or prof crystal but way better than other factories.
Insert
Cannot tell the difference.
Bezel
Both ARF and JF turns very good. I think the JF is a little tighter than ARF.
Sel end link
They are both tight. ARF has plated sel (depends on luck) and I did my paint mod on JF.
Crown
Cannot tell the difference.
Bracelet
ARF has 903L and JF has 316L. They are both very solid. I really cannot tell any difference by touching and wearing them. So I will say 907 and 316 don't matter to me.
However, ARF is a little easier to resize, the screws are smoother.
ARF has plated side mid link and I did my paint pen mod on JF.
Clasp
Both glidelock are functional. JF is a little smoother than ARF.
ARF safety lock is a little smoother and easier to open and close. Not sure if it is because of the age of the JF.
Conclusion
To be honest, you can not go wrong with either one. I can not tell you which one is better. But a side by side comparison should give you a chance to see every part of these two watches and facilitate your decision.
Hope this help members to choose the right version of blusey they like and within the budget. Please let me know if you have any comments.
Picture time!!
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I am very lucky and bought an ARF blusey from a member on repgreek (thank you very much @indywatchguy). I have a JF blusey, why not take some side by side pictures and do a mini comparison review.
ARF and JF are good OOTB choices and I hope this comparison can help some members when they make their decision.
ARF is always on the left/first (dated 2nd) and JF is always on the right/second (dated 23nd)
The ARF is fully stock. Very luckily, this watch is plated sel.
The JF is slightly modded. The original date font is fat and ugly. I bought a way nicer SH 3135 datewheel and have my watchsmith replaced. I also modded the bracelet using a gold paint pen.
Please note that the comment below is just my experience with these two watches and my humble opinion. I am no expert.
Price Breakdown (if you buy new from TD)
ARF
$498 from TD plus shipping (around $30 to the USA)
Not guarantee the sel is plated
JF
$438 new fromTD, but you can buy it m2m for way cheaper
Nicer SH 3135 datewheel $15
Datewheel installation and water pressure $50
Gold paint pen $10
Total investment: $574
Gold
Both is plated. ARF is a little lighter and very close to gen in my opinion.
Case
ARF
ARF has 903L, fat lug, but I cannot tell to be honest, I saw on the blusey thread that is a common issue for ARF
JF
JF has 316L
Both very solid, cannot tell any difference.
Dial
Both have very good color (not 100% correct to gen but still very close). Sunburst is great.
Looks like ARf has a little bigger hour marker.
Print / text
Both has 3D effect text in my eye.
Hands
I cannot tell the difference
Lume
Both ARF and JF lume are very outstanding and long lasting with nice blue color.
Date font and alignment
JF stock font is fat and ugly. I replaced it. ARF has both nice and fat date wheel. Looks like the older batch has fat date font. My ARf has nice date font.
Rehaut
ARF
The rehaut is perfectly aligned and clear
JF
The rehaut is aligned but not as clear as ARF.
Crystal
Both ARF and JF have very good blackhole effect, not as good as gen or prof crystal but way better than other factories.
Insert
Cannot tell the difference.
Bezel
Both ARF and JF turns very good. I think the JF is a little tighter than ARF.
Sel end link
They are both tight. ARF has plated sel (depends on luck) and I did my paint mod on JF.
Crown
Cannot tell the difference.
Bracelet
ARF has 903L and JF has 316L. They are both very solid. I really cannot tell any difference by touching and wearing them. So I will say 907 and 316 don't matter to me.
However, ARF is a little easier to resize, the screws are smoother.
ARF has plated side mid link and I did my paint pen mod on JF.
Clasp
Both glidelock are functional. JF is a little smoother than ARF.
ARF safety lock is a little smoother and easier to open and close. Not sure if it is because of the age of the JF.
Conclusion
To be honest, you can not go wrong with either one. I can not tell you which one is better. But a side by side comparison should give you a chance to see every part of these two watches and facilitate your decision.
Hope this help members to choose the right version of blusey they like and within the budget. Please let me know if you have any comments.
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While we're at it. Some gen, noob v8 and ARF comparison.
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Gen will always be gen, but how many percent of this world would see the difference between a ARF or Noob v8 dial if you don't have the gen next to them you think?
If you change the dial, the hands are still slightly wrong, so are the date wheel, crystal, bezel insert, lugs, crown, gold color, crown... movement and so on... where do you stop? How much is it worth to fool that last 0,01% of the world when you still know for yourself that some parts of your watch is a rep? No offence to you specific, just wondering in general?
I own the gen like my pictures show but will sell it. It doesn't make more happy than a really good rep. Was hoping it would but I was wrong.
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Well I definitely get where you're coming from. I assume that for people that Franken their watches to the utmost degree it must be mostly for the hobby of it, as it would be less headache and make more financial sense to buy the gen (hold or gain value). Kind of like people that modify their cars so heavily that they might as well have just bought the next model up.
Being a new hobby for me, I'm cool with a spongebob bezel and prof xtal, maybe a swiss ETA, Maybe a gen datewheel, maybe a gen xtal. Maybe a new clasp. Kind of a cheesy saying I've been saying to myself, but I go for the most gen like experience, not the most gen like look. If I can put some effort into my rep (appropriate mods and time, if necessary to me), and I know I did my research and due diligence into getting the best version *for me,* then I feel proud and confident about it. If anyone ever asked about it being fake or not, I'd say if it was real, I'd want you to think its fake. If it's fake, I'd want you to think it's real. And I'd leave it at that. If you know me, that's a very genuine answer anyways btw haha. I wouldn't let anyone know my Gen was real if they asked about it.
I got into this hobby because I had a 90s datejust and was so disappointed with it i thought it was fake. Doing my research, I found this site and now i have a new hobby. I enjoy my reps more and sold the Gen.
Maybe a more modern Gen wouldnt make me feel any different, and maybe I'd feel silly for paying substantially more when a rep is damn good. But I know I'd feel better not taking my rep off before walking into a high end watch store, and I know I'd feel good knowing that I made a good investment- assuming I bought it right. I'm also pretty sure I'd feel good having a Gen that's damn hard to replicate well despite all the dozens of attempts. Maybe it's more symbolic for me. Might be buying a gen datejust here soon so I'll let you know how I feel about it after haha.
Sorry for the rant guys lol.
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Ok just read this and many more threads before pulling the trigger on the ARF version. Excited for this! Am I right in thinking I should get a plated SEL version from ARF like other members have? Assuming that’s the latest batch?
Yes, you should. It's here today but tomorrow they might be gone and you'll get steel plating
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I wouln't hold my breath for it
Not if you're like me. We're already to screwed up since getting in to reps.13.000 USD for a analogue watch TODAY is just crazy when you think about it. Your mobile and computer or whatever quartz watch will still show the time more correct.
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