Care to name said issues with the ARF 41?
are we being sarcastic? The list is huge and it's instant tells, DW, magnification and alignment of cylcopse, rounded lugs, indices colour - and I have the silver dial which has significantly yellowed and gone patina on me in only 8 months time. Also the crown has issues going from position 1 - 2 and 2 back to 1 while the screw down is almost impossible sometimes. Even the 2824 movement which was supposed to be reliable had to be replaced with eta. A super rep or even first class rep doesnt need so many mods. I'm talking OOTB quality here...3 revisions and the DW is still unacceptable and instantly telling.
The DJF has very little instant tells and there are many threads here comparing DJF 36 to others, and most agree hands down for 36 DJF OOTB quality is good. I know this is a DJ41 discussion and I know ARF has its own cult but i have regretted every ARF purchase i ever made, maybe it's personal but specially their 3135 movements are total trash...endless money pit. The only thing i like about ARF is their bracelets which thankfully i can use on my other watches. i much prefer other factories cases like Noob, DJF, ZZF, VRF and even BPF/GMF at least they have a reasonable price.