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ARF 126334 DateJust 41, Best in the market

Aplex

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Thank you for all your information, I have declined the watch and i waiting for new QC pictures. I asked The TD to send me good overhead pictures.

In this thread I could not see a Clark Crystal installed compared to the ARF stick. Maybe someone has a picture for me? Thank you :)

I will send the watch to interaktiv. The Gen Crystal is too expensive, but the DW definitely needs to be replaced.


What is the price of a gen crystal installed?
 

gilrob

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Great idea Akilles . Also, I wonder why ARF doesn't use the same date wheel that RZF uses on their DateJust 41mm 126334 iteration. ARF and RZF uses the same A2824 movement so fitment should have no issues. The pictures I've seen of the RZF date fonts look a lot better than those of the stock ARF model. The calendar window location on the dials have to be same, otherwise it would be a no go. Just an idea.
 

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A bit off topic but recieved QC for my 116610LN. Wanted to show how good the DW and crystal on ZZF are compared to ARF. The blue/gold sub is gen.

If ARF fixes that we have an epic OOTB DJ41.

True but Subs have gone through many iterations before coming to this level of accuracy (we are in v10 while DJ41 is at v1.5)...maybe ZF can give us an aesthetically better DJ41. If their Patek or AP reps are any indicator, I am having high expectations. Enjoy the sub, now go get the Hulk :p Stay safe!!
 
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srhoque

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Great idea Akilles . Also, I wonder why ARF doesn't use the same date wheel that RZF uses on their DateJust 41mm 126334 iteration. ARF and RZF uses the same A2824 movement so fitment should have no issues. The pictures I've seen of the RZF date fonts look a lot better than those of the stock ARF model. The calendar window location on the dials have to be same, otherwise it would be a no go. Just an idea.

If ARF makes a perfect DW, no one will keep buying them multiple times or have 160 page threads about DW discussions. That defeats ARF strategy of “milking customer”.
 
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srhoque

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What is the price of a gen crystal installed?

Gen goes for $325 to $365. Prof which is also of superior quality is around $210. Installation is probably $50 to $100 but you would do the crystal as part of other services being done on the watch (like change DW also).
 
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gilrob

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If ARF makes a perfect DW, no one will keep buying them multiple times or have 160 page threads about DW discussions. That defeats ARF strategy of “milking customer”.

Unfortunately you are correct. ARF or any other factory main goal is to sell as much as possible. I'll just put this idea away for now and wait and see what the ZF model looks like. All the best.
 
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Akilles

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Unfortunately you are correct. ARF or any other factory main goal is to sell as much as possible. I'll just put this idea away for now and wait and see what the ZF model looks like. All the best.

Problem is that with a better crystal and gen DW the ARF-problem is kind of solved (I know I wont be buying anymore DJ41 as long as mine works). Also ZZF is only in v2 even if ARF and Noob subs has higher versions.

Also as you mentioned earlier. ARF is not the only DJ41 maker so I'm not sure I believe they could afford to create flaws on purpose but that could be discussed for a looong time:p

I do not believe when Noob made their v1 sub that they created 15 flaws on purpose, they simply couldn't do better in that time and that goes for v2, v3, v4 and so on. Rep machines/equipment/parts are getting better every year and so are the watches.
 
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Hi guys I’m trying to plate the bezel with white gold or an other material to give it more shine because to be honest the stock steel bezel is a bit off,and it lost more shine with the time ... so is taking of the bezel and installing it back an easy task or do I need some special material ? Thanks


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Gen goes for $325 to $365. Prof which is also of superior quality is around $210. Installation is probably $50 to $100 but you would do the crystal as part of other services being done on the watch (like change DW also).

Where i can take prof ?
 

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Firstly, THANK YOU for taking the time to read through 100+ pages and being “well informed”. Lots of useful info on this forum.

Hard to guess from the pics if the cyclops is not aligned. But i just wanted to suggest that you change to a Gen or Prof crystal. For darker color dials (black, blue or rhodium), good glass quality presents an amazing contrast and makes the dial+markers “pop”. I am personally not a big fan of the stock ARF crystal. Glass quality is inferior and mag is wrong (but I think they have fixed that in newer models).

Stay safe and wear the watch in good health!!

Edit: You could even go for Clark crystals on ebay. Way cheaper than gen/Prof but much better quality than ARF (based on feedback from other members).

has anyone ever tried the clark crystal for the 126334? maybe that solves the mag problem compared to the ARF crystal ootb, so that a DW may not be necessary ... and what kind of black hole effect does the clark crystal have for our DJ?
 

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has anyone ever tried the clark crystal for the 126334? maybe that solves the mag problem compared to the ARF crystal ootb, so that a DW may not be necessary ... and what kind of black hole effect does the clark crystal have for our DJ?

I had one in a Sub 116610 but it broke from a fall. Nice glass but you can't see the black hole
 
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gilrob

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Ok- thanks! So I think there’s no other way than gen crystal + gen DW.

The date wheel from the RZF DateJust 41mm could be a cost effective alternative to the gen date wheel. Both the ARF and RZF uses the A2824 movement so it will be a simple switch of date wheels. The only possible problems are sourcing the RZF date wheel and if the calendar date window locations on the dials of the RZF and ARF are the same. Well worth looking into.
 

SonnyM5

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Just got my QC, does the cyclops look aligned? It looks slightly skewed to me, but I'm not sure if thats just me. Also, the lugs look like they could possibly be a bit "sharper"? Or do they look acceptable. I asked for a few more qc picks of the DW at some other numbers, so I'll wait for those before I proceed, but in the mean time I thought I'd check to see if I'm missing anything else.
 
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Akilles

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That cyclops is crocked, yes. Rotaded too much clockwise. I would ask for a new watch instead. More pics of the DW won't help with that problem since Rolex wouldn't produce a watch with a cyclops that crocked.
 
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SonnyM5

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That cyclops is crocked, yes. Rotaded too much clockwise. I would ask for a new watch instead. More pics of the DW won't help with that problem since Rolex wouldn't produce a watch with a cyclops that crocked.

Thanks, I noticed that, but I wasn't sure if it was a huge amount and worth asking for a new one. I'll go ahead and ask for a new watch though, I feel like its something that would bother me a bunch down the road if I accepted it.
 

Akilles

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Thanks, I noticed that, but I wasn't sure if it was a huge amount and worth asking for a new one. I'll go ahead and ask for a new watch though, I feel like its something that would bother me a bunch down the road if I accepted it.

Thats up to you, however what I wrote is true and can be fixed with a new watch. But nothing will be 100% on a rep. But the factory sometimes does sloppy finnish with the DW and cyclops alignment which bothers me more than a small SEL gap or a 3 dots on the crown that should be a line (or vice versa) for instance that would be a dealbreaker for other members here... all up to you
 

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Did we on one of these 311 pages ever discuss how a datewheel transplant with a gen 3235 datewheel works? I am considering to get one, but it's not really meant to be compatible regarding the teeth.

Did any of you do it himself?