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Are we headed towards WWIII?

KBH

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In regards to this topic, not sure about ww3 but Syria might be the new Iraq. I hope people aren't naïve enough to think this is due to America being compelled to take the moral high ground. Its whatever fits in the category of "national interest."

The only slight possibility of this being the new Iraq is if, and it's very unlikely, the Jihadist minority happens to come out on top in this civil war. The we'll have to go in to secure the WMD's, which unlike Iraq, we know 100% that Assad has them.

Right now it's a proxy war among the Sunni's and Shia's just like the Iraq/Iran war of the last decade. It was in the best interest of both the US and Russia to keep those two fighting and killing each other. It kept Russia as the main arms supplier to Iran and it kept our arch enemy at bay through attrition and degradation of their forces. For those of short memory, Iran held our diplomats hostage for a year and a half and destroyed Jimmy Carter's Presidency. At that time we were supplying weapons, including chemical to Saddam Hussein.

It's my opinion that the US doesn't especially want a winner any time soon. They just want to be sure that the country isn't taken over by Al-Qaeda elements. So, now that Assad is appearing to get the upper hand, we need to go back and even the playing field a bit.

Quite often, reality is quite different than what you see on TV.
 

Cromag

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“Elections are designed primarily to convince the masses that the government is legitimate.â€

Just like religion, politics is a way of controlling people. The democratic republic version is no different. Do you believe that if there was no religion there would be no war or suffering?

Elites not masses govern all societies. All societies are governed by the ruling class elites.

Elitism implies that public policy does not reflect demands of the people so much as it reflect the interests and values of Elites.

“Changes and innovation in public policy come about when elites redefine their own values.â€
 

redrising

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I don't see why the US has to get involved in Syria. It's a civil matter between the Sunni and Shia. Assad clearly hates American and the Rebels are Al Qaeda. Anyone here actually believe that you can win the heart and mind of Syrians? Don't believe for a second that it's just an air strike. There will be foot soldiers in Syria eventually.

Anyone here wants to supports the rebels?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/05/w...rian-rebels-pose-dilemma-in-west.html?hp&_r=0
 

rhp1462

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1. Go after Syria simply to save his face regarding "red line"
2. Authorize the killing of American oversea.
3. Intimidate his oppenents through the IRS
4. Hypocrasy - used information extraction techniques at Gitmo in order to get Bin Ladin. Techniques that the progressive deemed inhumane.
5. Expansion of drones
6. Militarization of the police and various government agencies.
7. Government stockpilling of ammunition.
8. PRISM
9. Maintain a presence in Iraq and Afghanistan even after "ending" the wars.
10. Extended the Patriot Act.
11.Signed the Monsanto Protection Act into law.
12. Sold billions of weapons to a dictatorship in Saudi Arabia.
13. Initiated, and personally oversees a "Secret Kill List"

I mostly vote republican. And i can tell you one thing. Republicans will never win another election if their supporters keep making these idiotic statements. That is just down right stupid. I dont agree with a lot that Obama has to say but give him credit where it is due.
Answers
1.Go to syria to save their people from their own government.
2.If any americans are gonna work against America, It is fine in my book.
3.Need further proof.
4.THANKS to those techniques, OSAMA IS DEAD.
5.More drones and less fallen heroes. I am fine with that.
6.Have you seen gangs with their AKs and uzis. Fine by me.
7.Those guns are useless without ammo.
8.PRISM, If it prevents another 9/11 or boston marathon bombing or newtown shooting, I am ok with that.
9.We were there before this president took office and we cant just pack our shit and leave.
10.Are you ******* kidding me. I bet you supported patriot act when bush implemented it.
 

Jaybo

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One can only imagine what mess America would be in today, if Romney was elected.

He would have weekly meetings with the Teahadist racist right wing nut AM radio show hosts to get their guidance to implement the tea party social justice agenda

Faux news reporters would be the only reporters allowed to ask Romney and Ryan questions at press conferences.

Romney would have bombed Egypt and rest of the Middle East because he and the Teahadist racist right wing nut AM radio show hosts are anti Muslim.

Ryan would push his agenda to gut social security.

The immigrants in the USA would have been rounded up and shipped out of America.

Thank God Obama was re elected.

No, bro, the same thing that is happening now, would be happening. Wars will continue to happen. We will always have droves of people overseas in conflicts. It doesn't matter what party is in power. Why? Simple. Wars make people rich. Follow the money.
 

cybee

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That guy kills me everytime I see him. Without humorous insertions like this, these political threads would be utterly pointless. Always the same forum politicians spouting babble. Save us from ourselves and please pass the popcorn :cheer:

 

rhp1462

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I had Vietnamese for lunch , and Hebrew National franks for dinner last night. That's how I felt this morning. :goat:

Hope you don't tell us about your shitting experiences at office tomorrow.