APS 15720 with 4302 clone inside will come out

[JayBee0815]

When you say “hang”, do you mean it changes partially instead of all the way? This could be due to the datewheel being too thick at some parts, a common issue with the 4302 clone issue on the 15500

Could be ...



... But when I tried to document the error just now, another - this time serious - error appeared - the minute hand no longer seems to sit properly on the Canon pinion (sorry for the perhaps wrong technical term, I'm more of a layman).

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I hope @Nikz19 can fix this ;-)

As I said, the second APS (in blue) does not seem to have any quirks. So either I got a "Lemon" or APS has quality problems with the clone movement. I would guess the latter and advise against buying it for the time being.

 

[sscarm]

Could be ...



... But when I tried to document the error just now, another - this time serious - error appeared - the minute hand no longer seems to sit properly on the Canon pinion (sorry for the perhaps wrong technical term, I'm more of a layman).

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I hope @Nikz19 can fix this ;-)

As I said, the second APS (in blue) does not seem to have any quirks. So either I got a "Lemon" or APS has quality problems with the clone movement. I would guess the latter and advise against buying it for the time being.

I have a blue dialled variant for around a month so far - no issues on my end and works like a charm. So far I have had three 4302 APs, all without any issues. Maybe your grey dial just has inherent issues.

 

[Watchwarrior99]

i’ve had the green variant and the quick release lugs are broken. strap comes off just with a tug, bummer I had to order a replacement from TD , I guess the QC at APSF is pretty bad

 

[serumdiesel]

i’ve had the green variant and the quick release lugs are broken. strap comes off just with a tug, bummer I had to order a replacement from TD , I guess the QC at APSF is pretty bad

Good to know. I've got the grey in-hand and it's perfect all the way around and am now planning on ordering either the blue or the green (undecided as of now). When I do, though, I'm gonna be sure to ask for video of the quick-release bracelet system functioning properly,

 

[Paul Newman]

Could you take some pics to show the variance in color of the grey dial?

 

[TingelTangelTom]

Could be ...



... But when I tried to document the error just now, another - this time serious - error appeared - the minute hand no longer seems to sit properly on the Canon pinion (sorry for the perhaps wrong technical term, I'm more of a layman).

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I hope @Nikz19 can fix this ;-)

As I said, the second APS (in blue) does not seem to have any quirks. So either I got a "Lemon" or APS has quality problems with the clone movement. I would guess the latter and advise against buying it for the time being.

The Minute Hand is (most likeley) not a big Problem. Noticed the same thing on one of my AP´s yesterday too, and fixed it right away. Most likeley you can perform it on your own with just a few tools needed

 

[JayBee0815]

The Minute Hand is (most likeley) not a big Problem. Noticed the same thing on one of my AP´s yesterday too, and fixed it right away. Most likeley you can perform it on your own with just a few tools needed

Now the watch is already at @Nikz19 workshop. He will for sure find a way get this fixed.

 

[Fusible]

In the years released of these models was the gasket on the Grey refrence always navy blue?

 

[serumdiesel]

In the years released of these models was the gasket on the Grey refrence always navy blue?

When I looked into it, I wasn’t able to find any example from any release year that had a gasket color matching what is currently on these grey reps. Pretty easy fix, though.

 

[bpbp]

Could be ...



... But when I tried to document the error just now, another - this time serious - error appeared - the minute hand no longer seems to sit properly on the Canon pinion (sorry for the perhaps wrong technical term, I'm more of a layman).

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I hope @Nikz19 can fix this ;-)

As I said, the second APS (in blue) does not seem to have any quirks. So either I got a "Lemon" or APS has quality problems with the clone movement. I would guess the latter and advise against buying it for the time being.

So the clone movement is not stable?

 

[thats_not_funny_guys]

When I looked into it, I wasn’t able to find any example from any release year that had a gasket color matching what is currently on these grey reps. Pretty easy fix, though.

I have seen both grey and blue gaskets online for the grey version.

 

[serumdiesel]

I have seen both grey and blue gaskets online for the grey version.

I haven’t, and I’ve looked. Some have also mentioned the dial and crown color, but these are actually accurate to a batch that can commonly be found (2022 iirc).

 

[legend]

I haven’t, and I’ve looked. Some have also mentioned the dial and crown color, but these are actually accurate to a batch that can commonly be found (2022 iirc).

Don’t worry about accuracy of dial color too much. Even if it’s 100% accurate, the watch is still a replica.
My point is that the watch should be enjoyed for what it is without too much worry about the colors of dial and parts which may or may not be accurate. Such variations come with the territory of purchasing a rep but the cost savings vs buying a gen is tremendous as you can imagine.
Even if the dial color is 1:1 you’ll soon find other details to pick on knowing that it’s a replica. And the flaws are many. In replicas accurate details tend to get overlooked or taken for granted and flaws commented and picked on to pieces.

 

[serumdiesel]

In replicas accurate details tend to get overlooked or taken for granted and flaws commented and picked on to pieces.

yeah and that's half the fun

 

[thats_not_funny_guys]

I haven’t, and I’ve looked. Some have also mentioned the dial and crown color, but these are actually accurate to a batch that can commonly be found (2022 iirc).

This has the blue gasket from 2021.

Audemars Piguet - My new diver has arrived.

Watchprosite- That is the pristine grey dial version of the newly released models. While many like the Royal Oak,my absolute favorite was always the Offshore : the rea

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This grey market dealer shows one with a grey gasket. Crowns and dial color seem to be a closer match to the APSF as well.

Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Offshore 15720ST.OO.A009CA.01 Diver Stainles

The AP Royal Oak Offshore Diver Stainless Steel Grey Dial 15720ST.OA009CA.01 is a robust and stylish dive watch that seamlessly combines form and function for underwater exploration.

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[serumdiesel]

This has the blue gasket from 2021.

Audemars Piguet - My new diver has arrived.

Watchprosite- That is the pristine grey dial version of the newly released models. While many like the Royal Oak,my absolute favorite was always the Offshore : the rea

www.watchprosite.com

This grey market dealer shows one with a grey gasket. Crowns and dial color seem to be a closer match to the APSF as well.

Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Offshore 15720ST.OO.A009CA.01 Diver Stainles

The AP Royal Oak Offshore Diver Stainless Steel Grey Dial 15720ST.OA009CA.01 is a robust and stylish dive watch that seamlessly combines form and function for underwater exploration.

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APSF is very far off from both of those with a much lighter colored gasket.

 

[dashindark]

APSF is very far off from both of those with a much lighter colored gasket.

So which one is closest to gen in terms of color? I am a bit of confused by the number of variants for 15720.

 

[serumdiesel]

So which one is closest to gen in terms of color? I am a bit of confused by the number of variants for 15720.

IMO all of them are close enough to go with what you like, other than the black one (even this is still fine but I'm not a fan of SS trying to imitate white gold). For a direct, in-hand comparison to gen, others here will need to chime in for that.

Do a title search for "15720" here and you'll find a direct comparison between grey APF vs. gen. The APF has a better gasket color as compared to the APSF but the hands and pinion are off if you care enough to look that closely.

 

[silver.forever]

Is this also the APS? Is this the same as APSF? Is there even an APSFactory?
Was trying on the GEN a few weeks ago and it seems that the APF is the closest to what I have seen in the boutique. The gasket ring was blue and the crown is clearly grey on the GEN. At least on the pictures the APS crown seems to be very dark and not that close to GEN and APF.
The 2023 GEN Model seems really very close to what was posted on reptime
But it seems the APF does not have a real 4308 clone. Would it make sense to buy APS and APF, use the APS as base and change crown and gasket ring from the APF?

 

[hurk]

Is this also the APS? Is this the same as APSF? Is there even an APSFactory?
Was trying on the GEN a few weeks ago and it seems that the APF is the closest to what I have seen in the boutique. The gasket ring was blue and the crown is clearly grey on the GEN. At least on the pictures the APS crown seems to be very dark and not that close to GEN and APF.
The 2023 GEN Model seems really very close to what was posted on reptime.
But it seems the APF does not have a real 4308 clone. Would it make sense to buy APS and APF, use the APS as base and change crown and gasket ring from the APF?

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