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Since H-Fac, no factory has nailed the geometry of the Ceramic case. Beside the wet dial, this watch is awesome and I really like it. These are my confirmed QC pics
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APS 15707 black/orange and white ceramic
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Ok, now here are a few "close-ups" from the light box. As you can see, the colour of the two crowns is a bit "darker" - I would compare it to white liquorice ;-)
A disclaimer about the photos: It is not easy to photograph white watches without professional equipment and to edit the pictures so that the white balance fits. I intervened here in post-processing because the white in the pictures has too warm a tone, which the watch does not have. I would say that the colour tones in the pictures reflect the real colours quite well.
A disclaimer about the photos: It is not easy to photograph white watches without professional equipment and to edit the pictures so that the white balance fits. I intervened here in post-processing because the white in the pictures has too warm a tone, which the watch does not have. I would say that the colour tones in the pictures reflect the real colours quite well.
The biggest tells are not the dial but rather the inner bezel. Once you see the 5/10/15 indices on the bezel and the difference between the long strokes of lume on the gen compared to the short ones on the rep it is the most immediate tell.
SuperLory
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ciao TSince H-Fac, no factory has nailed the geometry of the Ceramic case. Beside the wet dial, this watch is awesome and I really like it. These are my confirmed QC pics
what do you intend to do with it ??
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serumdiesel
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Yeah, definitely some obvious tells on here for the miniscule fraction of the population who knows what to look for. Although I'm now aware of a few of them thanks to the phenomenal information in this forum, I still like the look of these 15707s quite a bit, even as-is. Might grab one now, and grab an updated version later, as well.
I've always loved the look of the white ceramic diver. I once saw someone wearing it on a navy strap and it looked phenomenal. I honestly do not care about anything on the dial or the date wheel, but the ceramics being slightly different bothers me initially, but perhaps they wouldn't after continued wear. I might do the same as you and just pull the trigger. Life is brief and it's a pretty cool piece.
Thanks for the photos mate @JayBee0815 you saved me some money.
Im after the white ceramic for 5 years now probably, was really excited for this and they just butchered it.. This execution is not acceptable to me.
I hope ZF jumps on this soon.
Fingers crossed.
Im after the white ceramic for 5 years now probably, was really excited for this and they just butchered it.. This execution is not acceptable to me.
I hope ZF jumps on this soon.
Fingers crossed.
serumdiesel
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Yeah, I’m with you on all of the above. The ceramics mismatch is the only thing that would actually bother me while wearing it. As you said, though, life is brief. If it continues to be bothersome, can always just sell it after getting some time beforehand to enjoy it as a novelty piece.
I think you are all nitpicking to much on this watch, I have the white ceramic with me and it is a pretty nice watch, crowns are a bit translucent but in real life is way less noticeable than in maginified pics...
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With a gen dial and the bezel screws plated in WG, this watch is fantastic 
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Beautiful mate, congrats.With a gen dial and the bezel screws plated in WG, this watch is fantastic
Just curious, does the gen 15707 has its own specific dial or does it use the same dial as the 15710? Must be hard to find a gen 15710 dial but almost impossible to find if the 15707 has its own
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serumdiesel
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Good to know. At the same time, I also genuinely appreciate all nitpicking regarding such matters even if I don't necessarily share the same grievances for the same watch. That level of granularity in the quality analyses educates the rest of us while also serving to ultimately drive the rep industry forward.
With a gen dial and the bezel screws plated in WG, this watch is fantastic
Is the internal diving bezel gen too ? Looks to me like the stock APSF but I can be wrong.
Not sure if we can order this APSF 15707 fitted with the dial from the APSF 15710 instead from the TD. Like this ceramic diver a lot but just can't get over the wet dial.
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The APSF 15710 suffers from the same semi-gloss look like their 15707.
You'd be better off using the ZF 15710 dial.
Or even better - use an XF 15707 dial if you can get one... Changing parts on order from TD's is not possible - at least not for standard customers. As spare parts don't bring in mentionable margins this won't be possible unless you have a very good connection to your seller and he has to have good connections to the factories as they don't make big margins on spare parts either.
Modding is the way to go if you want to come close to perfection. This ceramic diver is the best base there ever was to start modding this rare gem (together with the XF V2 15707).
And be assured you will most likely never come across someone wearing the gen in the same room like you haha
The APSF 15710 suffers from the same semi-gloss look like their 15707.
You'd be better off using the ZF 15710 dial.
Or even better - use an XF 15707 dial if you can get one... Changing parts on order from TD's is not possible - at least not for standard customers. As spare parts don't bring in mentionable margins this won't be possible unless you have a very good connection to your seller and he has to have good connections to the factories as they don't make big margins on spare parts either.
Modding is the way to go if you want to come close to perfection. This ceramic diver is the best base there ever was to start modding this rare gem (together with the XF V2 15707).
And be assured you will most likely never come across someone wearing the gen in the same room like you haha
Thanks for your advise.
I have enquired about getting the ZF 15707 dial to be installed in the APSF 15707 from the TD. Will have my first good rep if this can be done.
Is the ceramic bezel grained from top to bottom ? Like the RM Bubba grainingHere are some first photos "in the wild". I will make some closeups and movement pictures later ...
I don't mind a wet dial on a Diver, seems like a nice match up, and the black ceramic case looks good so that would be the main thing for me.