AP Tour Auto 2012 Project- InTimeWatches X Noob Factory

[Yannou]

Hi Ryan hi RWI People...
So in my eyes the Watch has many flaws... Not all are directly notecible but if you had an Gen allready in Hand you know that it looks much different.

1. The little Chrono Hand on 12 looks on the Picture not really Blue, it looks more like Dark Blue or Black. But can be all on the Picture!
2. The Dial Self is on the Gen not like the Safari AP, it is not poor White is has an light shine of Silver
3. The Numbers looks a little but only a little too Dark Blue but i think the Main prob is not the Numbers it is more the Chrono Dials! They are too Dark
4. The Red on the Hands is wrong it´s too Dark... There are two different Colors! Btw the Hands and the Tachyring. Tachyring looks in my eyes not Bad they use it from the Panda, and that is ok... The Red on the Chrono Dials is to Dark!
5. The Big mess i didn´t know why they can´t correct on all AP´s ? Is the AP Logo self. The Space btw A P is too much. The Gen Logos are more accurate... Look at the Pic here on Top. If you check the actually AP RG Rep it has the same prob.
6. The Crown and Pushers are to light Blue. Gen is more Dark, but i think with that we must live

so you had us give an nice instruction how to get it Darker

7. The Strap looks in my eyes 1st Time good Color, i hope the Quality is ok for an Rep

8. The Date Window Hole looks in the Back Blue??? Gen is Silver...

So that is what i have found on the fast look... I mean the Numbers are miss angled but haven´t check in Photoshop... Can´t say exactly is only a feeling... So if the Factory can make some updates that will be really cool...
I know that many People can´t wait here for the Watch... And for the first it looks not Bad ! But i think we all can wait a little more, if we get then an really Perfect AP Tour Auto...
Cool will be if you can add or give us the upinion to get your nice Colorless AR Crystal!

So this is so far what i have notice on the Watch

No disrespect but you are expecting too much..
I really doubt that the noob factory will do all these mods...I may be wrong...

 

[Goodgood]

No disrespect but you are expecting too much..
I really doubt that the noob factory will do all these mods...I may be wrong...

Well, maybe but you got to try to get them all fixed, you get nothing if you don't ask.

 

[zocker4711]

Yannou i didn´t mean it BAD !

So that are only the flaws i have seen... So it will be not Ryan´s fault... I think it is on the Factory if they change the flaws or not...

We have seen it by Toro´s AP 57th Street...
For this Price range i think it wasn´t Accepptable...

But by the Way the Tour Auto seems much much better then the AP 57th...

But that is my thinking...
and i didn´t wanna Hit here any Member or Ryan or somewhere!

Everyone has his own opinion...

For me it is an Rep and not an Gen!
so i didn´t await an 100% exact Rep.

All AP´s have flaws there are some ground flaws that can´t be changed!

Date Window Position, Crown, Case Hight etc... the Rep have an 7750 Movement and that are flaws that can´t be changed...

For me Personaly that is all no problem...

 

[masmannan]

Of course you got to ask, try, expect, demand, pressurise if you want the best. And that means in life too.

 

[zocker4711]

Of course you got to ask, try, expect, demand, pressurise if you want the best. And that means in life too.

I think to do that on the Factorys will be no good way
If you set them under pressure they shut the Door and they do nothing...

So Time will be the word...

Give them a little bit more Time to Correct the Flaws and all will be good...

They didn´t work only on one Watch... So give them a little Time...

Asking every 5min when will you Finish and these and that will be nagging the People... And the End result is not the best then...

 

[Goodgood]

I think to do that on the Factorys will be no good way
If you set them under pressure they shut the Door and they do nothing...

So Time will be the word...

Give them a little bit more Time to Correct the Flaws and all will be good...

They didn´t work only on one Watch... So give them a little Time...

Asking every 5min when will you Finish and these and that will be nagging the People... And the End result is not the best then...

So, you give up without asking? what are you saying?
Ryan wants us to point out all the defects ASAP so he can talk to the factory. So, like you wrote why try?????

 

[guru]

I just had my wife look at the picks and her first comment was, the numbers are thinner.
I have not seen this before but hell, just look at the 8...


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[masmannan]

Ryan - apart from the dial. Are you happy with the rest of the watch? Ie blue rubber pushers and crowns?

Masmannan.

 

[eyeknow]

These pushers and crown are way too off colorwise. I hope they will correct it.

 

[ryanwayer]

Thanks for your efforts, Ryan! They will pay off! I really didn't notice the blue so well until looking closer but that is for sure a needed fix...

Yes , I agree

+1, my hat off to you for not accepting!
I'd rather wait another 6-8 weeks for the correct colour and silver outline is a must on the numbers. Correct Ap logo would be a massive, massive plus!



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Yes, I don't understand why they didn't see the silver line. that is very important and easy for them..

Yes, unfortunately I was in a similar situation, and one of the reason I didn´t made the Pride Of Argentina was that they couldn´t match the color on the pushers and crown. The blue silicon is just awful. But let´s hope for the best that ryan can make it.

Yes Man, I understand your feeling now, I am trying my best to get the correct blue first.

:thinking: Apart from the Silver outline, darker dial numbers, AP logo spacing i've noted ur date window looks blue colour whereas the gen has black.


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The rep is black datewindow, no worries.

Are the sub dials missing a silver outline on the sample Ryan? Hard to tell on the pic


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yes, you are right.

It's crazy...I hate more and more this noob factory....A normal and good industrial would send you a dial sample before producing all the batch...They really don't care about their customers (and dealers) ...they fix their own rules....it's a shame

Rep first sample


From what I see, maybe a swap of the color for the index markers to become the color of the sub dials and the color of the sub dials to become the color of the index markers might works?

The sub dial blue should correct right? I think the index blue should be match the sub dial blue.

Hi Ryan hi RWI People...
So in my eyes the Watch has many flaws... Not all are directly notecible but if you had an Gen allready in Hand you know that it looks much different.

1. The little Chrono Hand on 12 looks on the Picture not really Blue, it looks more like Dark Blue or Black. But can be all on the Picture!
2. The Dial Self is on the Gen not like the Safari AP, it is not poor White is has an light shine of Silver
3. The Numbers looks a little but only a little too Dark Blue but i think the Main prob is not the Numbers it is more the Chrono Dials! They are too Dark
4. The Red on the Hands is wrong it´s too Dark... There are two different Colors! Btw the Hands and the Tachyring. Tachyring looks in my eyes not Bad they use it from the Panda, and that is ok... The Red on the Chrono Dials is to Dark!
5. The Big mess i didn´t know why they can´t correct on all AP´s ? Is the AP Logo self. The Space btw A P is too much. The Gen Logos are more accurate... Look at the Pic here on Top. If you check the actually AP RG Rep it has the same prob.
6. The Crown and Pushers are to light Blue. Gen is more Dark, but i think with that we must live

so you had us give an nice instruction how to get it Darker

7. The Strap looks in my eyes 1st Time good Color, i hope the Quality is ok for an Rep

8. The Date Window Hole looks in the Back Blue??? Gen is Silver...

So that is what i have found on the fast look... I mean the Numbers are miss angled but haven´t check in Photoshop... Can´t say exactly is only a feeling... So if the Factory can make some updates that will be really cool...
I know that many People can´t wait here for the Watch... And for the first it looks not Bad ! But i think we all can wait a little more, if we get then an really Perfect AP Tour Auto...
Cool will be if you can add or give us the upinion to get your nice Colorless AR Crystal!

1. The chrono hand @12 is dark blue, please look the second picture
2. hmm , I have seen the gen in person, the dial should be same as gen navy dial ( not rep navy) that is pure white not silver .
3. oh, you think the blue too dark? haha I just thinking it is not dark enough, I have the gen navy dial and I know the Tour Auto 2012 blue index is same as navy index.
4. ok thanks, I will check.
5. Maybe they have tons of rep ap logo, and they want sell all big space logo first.
6. I understand this one. I will try my best to ask them fix it.
7. This is standard rep hornback strap quality.
8. hmm, the datewindow should be black, not silver.

I just had my wife look at the picks and her first comment was, the numbers are thinner.
I have not seen this before but hell, just look at the 8...


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Yes, because the missing silver outline and silver subdial outline

Ryan - apart from the dial. Are you happy with the rest of the watch? Ie blue rubber pushers and crowns?

Masmannan.

The Blue pushers and crown are not dark blue, just the normal blue, they said it has updated but I think just very slightly difference. I am not happy with this first sample.

 

[zocker4711]

Hehe i had the first impression with my Wife too... She looked at the Watch and means WOW that is a nice Watch... But i was at this Time looking on the Gen Pics... Then i show her the first Pics of the Rep. there She means nah that isn´t sooo nice lol

I must say my Wife is no Watch expert and she see a Watch as a Watch

So GoodGood i don´t give up i wanna only say that Ryan must ask the Factorys... But i think all of us know how it with the Factorys work? If you Push them they will do nothing...

I think Ryan must talk to them and say them that the things must be Fixed, but not with Time Pressure...

I know that many People can´t wait anymore for the Watch, me self too

But if i must wait a month or two longer, and get for that an better result.
Then i like to wait

 

[ryanwayer]

Hehe i had the first impression with my Wife too... She looked at the Watch and means WOW that is a nice Watch... But i was at this Time looking on the Gen Pics... Then i show her the first Pics of the Rep. there She means nah that isn´t sooo nice lol

I must say my Wife is no Watch expert and she see a Watch as a Watch

So GoodGood i don´t give up i wanna only say that Ryan must ask the Factorys... But i think all of us know how it with the Factorys work? If you Push them they will do nothing...

I think Ryan must talk to them and say them that the things must be Fixed, but not with Time Pressure...

I know that many People can´t wait anymore for the Watch, me self too

But if i must wait a month or two longer, and get for that an better result.
Then i like to wait

Thanks , If I push them will not help anything, I need pay more cost to get the parts re produce.. that's why I need more opinion to make the correct version.

 

[carlton]

The sub dial blue should correct right? I think the index blue should be match the sub dial blue

Yeah, i check again and i believe the color of the sub dial and index markers should be the same. The blue color sub dial on the rep first sample is more closer to the color of the gen imo.

 

[Yannou]

Thanks , If I push them will not help anything, I need pay more cost to get the parts re produce.. that's why I need more opinion to make the correct version.

Fingers crossed
We are with you...

 

[guru]

Ryan, the crowd is behind you, no time issues


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[sharrkey]

+1, still keeping my 1st place on the listopcorn:

 

[TESLA760]

I think we'd all rather wait for a better product.

 

[bgreg]

Ryan we are behind you 100%....if it takes longer to get it right, then we wait. Others have already stated the issues, I'll just list my order of priority.
1. Get the darker blue color right on numbers and crown and pushers
2. Add silver outline to numbers and subdials
3 Get the AP logo closer to gen.

That's it I'm still in.

 

[renoz]

Date window in below link looks like being blu... Which would make sense...

http://montresmecaniques.forumactif.com/t6038-presentation-de-la-collection-ap-2012-a-paris

 

[ddc]

The numbers are too thin (the number 4 is terrible), the dial is way too white... The date window is wrong as many have noticed...