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AP MICHAEL SCHUMACHER 44MM By J12

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those don't look gen, if u know what i mean.

here's a nicer pair..

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I like it I ordered one my J12 blue blows Noob Panda away IMO maybe a bit flawed but overall it's a head turner can't wait for mine
 

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After further research, this thread is the root cause of $700 reps




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Funniest like I heard today was J12 Maker is either blind or eye crooked lol


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I hope they also fix the red crown insert. To me this is a huge giveaway as the red color of the insert draws attention to itself.
Specifically, the gen Schumi has an etched 'AP' logo on the red crown, while the J12 rep has a flat printed logo.

No one will notice that trust me.
 

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We now focus on the small cosmetic flaws ... have we given up on the wrong, too dark, dial color?

Dr. Theo .... who has not not seen QC pics of his Schumacher LE.
 

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Are you serious that no one has ever noticed that the tachy ring misalignement is an issue with MANY AP reps for ages? Only now has this flaw been noticed?!?! I think we inadvertently taught the chinese not to worry about tachy ring misalignement, and now all of a sudden everybody is rejecting their watches because of this issue!!

don't get me wrong. I agree the tachy misalignement is enough reason to refuse this 800USD watch. I am just saying that it surprises me that no one ever mentioned this flaw with their older reps!

But I dare to go further: this is not a simple misalignement issue. Unfortunately, based on my experience with the older reps, the tachy ring is printed wrongly. No matter what one does to realign the tachy ring, its text won't ever match the dial markers perfectly around the whole dial. And older AP's need some filing on the tachy ring base to allow for repositioning, thus this is not a basic-level mod.
 

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We actually did reject many divers based on their Tachy misalignment... not sure about the other roo though...

Like Doc Theo mentioned the dial color might be a touch darker then Gen, but overall that is not really a deal breaker imo. For me the DW is the real issue on this batch, I trust it will be fixed onj the following versions or maybe with noob if they like to go ahead with this one...
 
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just saying... isn't noob able to buy j12 rep and rep it with improvement?
 

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Maybe if they can make the dw cutout smaller, square and thinner rings. It can give the impression of larger dw font that fills the cutout and it will give more space between the dial and tachy to allow some white pin prints. Win win. Dreaming lol.
 

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We actually did reject many divers based on their Tachy misalignment... not sure about the other roo though...

Like Doc Theo mentioned the dial color might be a touch darker then Gen, but overall that is not really a deal breaker imo. For me the DW is the real issue on this batch, I trust it will be fixed onj the following versions or maybe with noob if they like to go ahead with this one...

+1.. waiting for the noob version or J12 v2, if they ever come.. :D
 
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MADRED7

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For adjusting the datewheel they need to cut the square a little bit bigger, change the font and add a better/stronger datemag ... thats it. The date in the gen appears bigger due to the deeper date we see as the movement has the date in a different level.
Anyway, if there is a gen at the factory they used for copying, I ask myself WHY are there so many little flaws?
Answer: there is not 1 factory for the watch, but several smaller factories and supplieres for movement, datewheel, crystal, date-mag, screws, rubber strap,.... and some of them just think Schumi ROO datewheel = any other ROO white datewheel = print it red! But it´s not that simple.

Just my 0.02$

Dr. Theo is still waiting for his QC pics to show up.