AP 15400 black&white Gen vs. ZF vs. APSF comparison pictures

[CTime]

Hi, my friends

Today we bring you one of the most popular AP’s comparison.

The overall of ZF, APSF watches are in a very similar situation, they use the same movement and are sold at the same price.



As I can see, for the white dial, APSF is more close to gen. ZF is a bit greyish.

The square texture on the dial from ZF is about the same to gen, APSF made it somehow higher and smaller.

For the markers and hands, two factories seem in about the same quality level



The cases and bracelets are mostly identical, but engraving font is a little different at every place.

For the case back, APSF had thinner font and used a different version of engraving.

For the clasp, APSF nailed it on the shape and texture.



There normally won't be too much difference on the black color, but there will be different textures.



ZF and APSF 15400 are using same 3120 movement, functionally the same. Just the rotors are different and both are not so alike from gen.

In my opinion, even many factories have the same movement now, the old JF still had the best quality of AP, sad they are gone.



That's all, see you on the next one

Ctime

 

[EggsVoL]

tks u C. Which is rotor is better ZF or APS? Im looking for gen rotor butt price is so high

 

[viv423]

Awesome comparison! How would you rate the brushing and polishing of the bracelet and case vs gen?

 

[PRS]

Thank you for your effort and for this great share.

 

[RollyAP]

The shine and lust on the gen markers stand out so much next to the APS and ZF

 

[AliHamid]

@CTime That was an amazing comparison, would love to see another one between ZF/APSF v3 15500 vs GEN black dial if possible that would be great !!

 

[sfbatman787]

Aps seems like a second tier manufacturer, and not at the same level as ZF, VSF, or others.

 

[pam63C]

Interesting comparison.

Just noticed that the bezel octa screws on the gen is not centered on the bezel but slightly positioned towards the outer edge. Whereas both ZF and APS screws are position in the center of the bezels. Small detail though.

 

[grillbrill]

Interesting comparison.

Just noticed that the bezel octa screws on the gen is not centered on the bezel but slightly positioned towards the outer edge. Whereas both ZF and APS screws are position in the center of the bezels. Small detail though.

I think it's typical that the factories can't perfectly replicate the sizes and the positions of APRO bezel screws (either).

 

[GeneralRep]

Great stuff, thank you!

 

[serumdiesel]

Fantastic comparison. Thank you

 

[Victorparis92]

Thank you. Fro what I understand the 15400 has no interest versus the 15500 which has a clone movement.

 

[pam63C]

Thank you. Fro what I understand the 15400 has no interest versus the 15500 which has a clone movement.

The 15400 has a cloned 3120 movement too although the clone movement does not support instant date change. Rumor had it that a mod is available to do the instant date change.

 

[EggsVoL]

@CTime seem 3120 clone missing screw?

 

[EggsVoL]

and could we swap the gen plate to clone ?

 

[CTime]

@CTime seem 3120 clone missing screw?

They are like this when out of the factory, we didn't do anything to it. Others are also like this.

 

[alpharp]

Nice comparison. Note that there are multiple versions of gen AP Dials. Some factories may be trying to replicate a different “version” of the dial. I too noticed the APSF white dial to be closer to my gen dial when compared to ZF. The gen dial is a night and day difference in person, to both the APSF and ZF, though. While the APSF is nice, I don’t think either come close to gen.

For my personal 15400, I opted for an APSF V3 that was rebrushed, serviced, and refinished by the AP mastermind, legend. I also added a gen dial. I would highly disagree anyone doubting the quality of APSF. They are just as well made as ZF. The better hands, dial, clasp, and even brushing, makes it the best out of the box rep 15400, IMHO.

 

[tinitonsi]

Aps seems like a second tier manufacturer, and not at the same level as ZF, VSF, or others.

I don’t like anything from APSF

 

[sfbatman787]

I don’t like anything from APSF

Wise man, my brother

 

[Paolo1966]

I really like the Aps, I made a comparison with a gen and in my opinion it has a better bezel than the zf. With a gen dial it is a very good combo.