Oh one more thing. If you want a watch too grow with you, then the noob is better in 3135 form. You can built it too a all rolex minus case like I have. Put a real dial, real crystal band bezel and real band and real movement and hands and so on where the ARF you are stuck with an ETA rep or a real eta with a date wheel layover. But out of the box the noob is very detectible. The insert is still too white the date is extremely the wrong size because of the crystal and gasket they used. I love the feel of the noob better. But looks wise. ARF all the way.
I have a V9 3135 on the way, prof crystal in my possession and getting the insert modded (will do Molotow mod just for now because I want to use the watch this summer)
I think with those mods alone, it will be better than the ARF. I might be wrong, but I had the ARF and it was just lacking something so I sold it, figuring I would just mod up a V9 as I know the fit and finish are better with noob. Nothing to knock the ARF, it is a great piece but I will wait for the ARF 3135 before moving out of the v9. I love ARF, but I think the current 2824 is not THE ONE for me.
Edit: I do not get your comments about the clasp, on the v9 thread everyone is saying the V9 clasp is better. How bad could the polishing be? I do not think that is the biggest deal, bracelet itself is another story as we know the SEL on the ARF is unreal.