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blah blah blah, I just upped my post count by one :roll:
The solution to pollution is dilution!
More dealers means more competition more people hungry for a sale and lower prices.
There is some hidden element of these forums collectively that is preventing new dealers from being able to get a foothold or there simply isn't enough recruitment going on for new dealers.
For those of you who live in caves and can only visit these rep forums Ioffer is your friend. There are plenty of honest hungry dealers there.
As for the rest of these 18 pages of shit, you all need to grow up and go back to the light side if you don't like dealing with crooks, at the very least STFU about it.
As for dealers being "promoted" by the different forum sites, Firefox and Adblock Plus is your friend too, never again will you be force fed adds or other content that you don't want to see!
Proof:
Take that, while I'm waiting for my coffee to kick in does anyone wana talk about religion too?
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The solution to pollution is dilution!
More dealers means more competition more people hungry for a sale and lower prices.
There is some hidden element of these forums collectively that is preventing new dealers from being able to get a foothold or there simply isn't enough recruitment going on for new dealers.
For those of you who live in caves and can only visit these rep forums Ioffer is your friend. There are plenty of honest hungry dealers there.
As for the rest of these 18 pages of shit, you all need to grow up and go back to the light side if you don't like dealing with crooks, at the very least STFU about it.
As for dealers being "promoted" by the different forum sites, Firefox and Adblock Plus is your friend too, never again will you be force fed adds or other content that you don't want to see!
Proof:
Take that, while I'm waiting for my coffee to kick in does anyone wana talk about religion too?
:twisted:I don't see this issuse going anywhere soon until its resolved. We've all been told things are happening and were just waiting to see the outcome and annoucement from Tim.
jiro2085 said:
heck, this should at least be a seventy page thread!!
no just a measly 18 pages!
Peanuts, popcorn, coney island red hots!
:roll:
:shock: Life is Good!
Klink
70 pages?
17 plus 27 plus 4 more on RWG: we're getting there!
Maybe time to give it rest?
Nah, sooooo much suffering, anger and sorrow to get off our breasts.
Not that I suffered much, but what the fuck: I just love the sound of my own voice!
17 plus 27 plus 4 more on RWG: we're getting there!
Maybe time to give it rest?
Nah, sooooo much suffering, anger and sorrow to get off our breasts.
Not that I suffered much, but what the fuck: I just love the sound of my own voice!
@All......I'm not going to rant anymore on the rights or wrongs of what has transpired....it's there for everyone to see......most people have their own thoughts......I have mine...which are based on acquired information.....that I am not going into too deeply here......suffice to say there is only one thing to do......!
There is absolutely no point in BANNING the concerned parties........neither would it do any good to suspend them for a month.....the cumulative effect of any of these courses of action would be detrimental to the board and also cause friction between supporters and objectors......disharmony all round....and we don't need that....what we need is to heal the wounds and make sure that the board members don't suffer ..the action that should be taken is very simple......and effective....!
The Admin of this board has no legal or moral obligation to 'punish' the concerned parties for whatever transgression.......any item that was misdescribed was sold OFF THIS BOARD AND NOT ON IT.......they were sold on the websites that the dealers own personally......they weren't advertised here......so we....and Admin have no right to lay down conditions or make demands on these dealers and the representations they make on their websites...the Admin here have no more ability to reign in the activities of Swissluxurywatches or Replicascamcenter et ……but conversely Admin does have absolute authority and ability to ensure the behavior of active dealers within the forum…!
Where Admin does have a responsibility is to the members of the board.......the mission statement and objectives of this board were to offer guidance and subsequently a measure of protection against scammers......those objectives are still the same and shouldn't usurped by any dealer who simply wishes to impose his terms and conditions on the board.
The best way to achieve those objectives are to lay out and vigorously enforce a clearly defined set or rules for every dealer on the board.
1. All dealers to remain active and committed to this board must advertise their items for sale specifically on this board.
2. All adverts should be clearly described and meet the advertising parameters as laid out by Admin.
3. All adverts must carry a price correct photographs of the item and contact information which is restricted to e-mail or PM....unambiguous information must not be posted...!
4. Absolutely NO hot linking to a dealers website.....the board has no control over external websites and cannot therefore offer guidance to any member regarding the website.
5. If a dealer wishes to make a member aware that he has a website......the information should be supplied via e-mail or PM only....no comments on the board regarding external websites....same rule applies to members......members should not be allowed to provide that information....if a new member requires website info...all he has to do is click on the dealer who is advertising in the dealer section and send him a PM. or an e-mail via the board ...asking for further information or contact him via his advert....!
This board should be a safe haven for the members and Admin's responsibility should be primarily towards the membership........!
These are my thoughts......!
We need to act together and ensure that we do not have further instances of this nature.....!
There is absolutely no point in BANNING the concerned parties........neither would it do any good to suspend them for a month.....the cumulative effect of any of these courses of action would be detrimental to the board and also cause friction between supporters and objectors......disharmony all round....and we don't need that....what we need is to heal the wounds and make sure that the board members don't suffer ..the action that should be taken is very simple......and effective....!
The Admin of this board has no legal or moral obligation to 'punish' the concerned parties for whatever transgression.......any item that was misdescribed was sold OFF THIS BOARD AND NOT ON IT.......they were sold on the websites that the dealers own personally......they weren't advertised here......so we....and Admin have no right to lay down conditions or make demands on these dealers and the representations they make on their websites...the Admin here have no more ability to reign in the activities of Swissluxurywatches or Replicascamcenter et ……but conversely Admin does have absolute authority and ability to ensure the behavior of active dealers within the forum…!
Where Admin does have a responsibility is to the members of the board.......the mission statement and objectives of this board were to offer guidance and subsequently a measure of protection against scammers......those objectives are still the same and shouldn't usurped by any dealer who simply wishes to impose his terms and conditions on the board.
The best way to achieve those objectives are to lay out and vigorously enforce a clearly defined set or rules for every dealer on the board.
1. All dealers to remain active and committed to this board must advertise their items for sale specifically on this board.
2. All adverts should be clearly described and meet the advertising parameters as laid out by Admin.
3. All adverts must carry a price correct photographs of the item and contact information which is restricted to e-mail or PM....unambiguous information must not be posted...!
4. Absolutely NO hot linking to a dealers website.....the board has no control over external websites and cannot therefore offer guidance to any member regarding the website.
5. If a dealer wishes to make a member aware that he has a website......the information should be supplied via e-mail or PM only....no comments on the board regarding external websites....same rule applies to members......members should not be allowed to provide that information....if a new member requires website info...all he has to do is click on the dealer who is advertising in the dealer section and send him a PM. or an e-mail via the board ...asking for further information or contact him via his advert....!
This board should be a safe haven for the members and Admin's responsibility should be primarily towards the membership........!
These are my thoughts......!
We need to act together and ensure that we do not have further instances of this nature.....!
coop said:
is it snowing somewhere reallly really hot right now?
just kidding TTK, I'm used to your other, more inflamatory persona.Well done, TTK.
Ciso said it: succinct, cogent, non-inflammatory.
Good information and a free exchange of the same cures a lot of ills!
Ciso said it: succinct, cogent, non-inflammatory.
Good information and a free exchange of the same cures a lot of ills!
Ok, I'm pretty sure there is not a lot of disagreement with TTK's post. Obviously a little more time is needed for other members to see this post and voice their opinion. That being done, the Mods and Admin hopefully will contribute, AND then lets hope Tim acts on it! As he has posted over at RWG he hasn't heard from the other forums so might be time to take the lead here!
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I agree with alot of what TTK said :shock: LOL, seriously I think its a great idea that our dealers post their watches here like they used to. I've noticed these guys hardly post anything here anymore why would they when they have direct links to their sites here. It makes sense to post their watches here that way there can be a measure of standard that we all know is expected as Neil has said. I like choice and variety as much as the next guy but linking us to a web site that has hundreds of watches that are dropped shipped and not in the dealers hands has proven to be not so good for us. Really I think Neil has a great point here. A dealer has 100 noobmariners on hand and can gurantee movement and all the specs great put up some pics and let us decide like WBK, TTK, and a few others do, I think it works better that way. We know what their offering a full explanation is given of the watch and as Neil pointed out anyone of us can ask a dealer for their link to their site by PM or email and we buy there at our own risk or trust of that dealer as they will no longer be promoted here as a recommended site by the board.
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