What replacement parts are required to swap crystal on Sub-C Noob v5

[Migo123]

I want to replace the crystal on my Sub-C Noob v5. Some people say in different treads, that it is enough to chance the gasket from 2.7mm to 2.3mm to solve the problem. BK for example, says that will enhance the issue, but will not fix the problem.


I agree with BK, because I have even measured the crystal and a new seal alone will not lower the glass enough, because the glass is 0.8mm above the bezel. Could a thinner gen Rolex crystal help?


Who has the dimensions and part numbers for these parts, and could provide them to me? Has somebody already done this mod before, either the "solo gasket" solution, or the "smaller gasket and gen crystal" solution, and can report about the result?


I´m looking forward for any input!

Left the Sub-C from Noob V5, right my gen Rolex

 

[Princewilliam]

I'm doing this right now and I'm having this issue, a gen xtal and the gasket it comes with will not lower the xtal anymore than the stock noob xtal, they are the same thickness.

I've been told the only way to lower the xtal any more is to shave the case


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Here is the xtal part number
I can't see how a different gasket will lower the xtal anymore than it is now

 

[Migo123]

Hi Princewilliam!
Thank you very much for the Info, that exactly what I was looking for.
What do you mean with "shave the case"? Do you mean to cut the rehaut part of the case?
Have you already read this thread?
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/...Rolex-Submariner-116610-LN-(lower-crystal-mag

 

[Princewilliam]

Yes shave the rehaut part of the case down to the height needed is what I've been told, others seem to have lowered the xtal without doing this though. Possibly by setting the bezel insert in place a little higher than normal

If anyone has a better way I'm all ears....and eyes


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[vegasbaby]

Migo123 - is the Noob case and caseback a thicker height than your gen? I know this question isn't related to your post per se, but I've always wondered that. Whenever I see a gen sub on someone's wrist, it appears to be a thinner profile. The non raised crystal is part of it but I always have thought the Noob case is a hair thicker and it even looks like in in your pic.


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[Migo123]

Well, I´m looking for a solution that can be managed by my local wachtmaker and that does not bring a new inaccuracy. So in my opinion sanding the rehaut is out.

My hope is, that somebody has an even better solution for this problem. I´m really speechless, that Noob produce such a inaccuracy Sub-C and call this model a 5 Version. That to me, really a classic advertising lie.
On my first generation Sub-C, the crystal fits like on my gen Rolex and I can not understand, why Noob changed this on a, so called, 5 Version.

Anyway, we are looking for solutions, and perhaps setting the bezel a little higher is a successful way. But without some meaningful pics, I don´t think my local watchmaker would even touch this watch.

Vegasbaby -> Will check that for you, and send a view photos.

 

[Princewilliam]

I will post pics of mine with the new xtal when it's finished, not about to start shaving the case!

There are guys who have the answer but don't give it out for free

Too many modders

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[Migo123]

Indeed the Noob 5v rep case is thicker than my gen Sub-c. Look!
But this is not the main reason for the crystal problem, isn't it?

We talking about 0,80mm that the crystal is above the bezel and the different between the two cases are only 0,10mm to 0,11mm!

So what we need is a thinner crystal, a 2.3mm gasket and a magnifier that matches the gen magnification. Am I right, or am I right?:laugh:

Gen ist 5,40mm high, and 12,86mm with crystal

Noob 5v is 5,50mm and 13,32mm thick

 

[Migo123]

Princewilliam -> That would be fantastic! I have nothing about modders, and I would like to pay for this mod. But nobody has recommend a trustworthy modder to me so far...

Again, I would be really delighted if you could share your results and I´m sure a lot of rep-fans are looking forward to hear from you soon.

 

[vegasbaby]

Indeed the Noob 5v rep case is thicker than my gen Sub-c. Look!
But this is not the main reason for the crystal problem, isn't it?

We talking about 0,80mm that the crystal is above the bezel and the different between the two cases are only 0,10mm to 0,11mm!

So what we need is a thinner crystal, a 2.3mm gasket and a magnifier that matches the gen magnification. Am I right, or am I right?:laugh:

Gen ist 5,40mm high, and 12,86mm with crystal

Noob 5v is 5,50mm and 13,32mm thick

Great analysis Migo123! The case difference is slight but to the eye it's pretty noticeable to me! Crazy. Good luck on your quest! Hopefully your learnings will be heeded by our friends at Noob factory!


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[botsyboy]

Overall thickness means nothing as the crystal sits too high on noob and is a well known problem which many solve by fitting a lower gasket. It will then be pretty much the same.

 

[Princewilliam]

Overall thickness means nothing as the crystal sits too high on noob and is a well known problem which many solve by fitting a lower gasket. It will then be pretty much the same.

Yes but what I'm saying is, a gen crystal and gasket are the same thickness as a Noob crystal and gasket. So if the noob crystal is already sitting on the rehaut rim then a gen crystal isn't going to sit any lower


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[botsyboy]

The noob gasket is 2.70mm which wrong for a ceramic sub. I always replace with a 2.20 or 2.30 to correct this which of course lowers the height of the crystal be it gen or rep.

 

[Migo123]

-> botsyboy
But how can that be, that a change of a gasket will effect the high of the crystal. The deepest point to fit the crystal is the rehaut, am I wright?
Sorry, for asking such a silly question. My imagination is simply not good enough, I'm just a fan, not a pro

Could somebody send a photo, how this gasket "miracle" works? One photo = 1000 words:greedy:

My crystal is about 0,80mm over the bezel, the different between a 2,70mm gasket and a 2.30mm gasket is obviously 0,40mm. So it will come down half the way, but not so fare that it would fit like on my Noob 1v, for example.
What is wrong with the 5v case? Why is Noob doing this step back?

 

[botsyboy]

Noob have always done this. Do some reading about noob subc' sand you see how many have done this. They have used the same crystal gasket as a 16610 which is correct but subc has a lower height which is almost flush with the bezel insert inner edge. Even with a lower gasket the crystal still sits above the rehaut height and has the correct date magnification too.

 

[botsyboy]

Here is my subc v5 before I sold it and fitted with gen crystal and 2.30 gasket.

 

[Princewilliam]

Here is my subc v5 before I sold it and fitted with gen crystal and 2.30 gasket.

Did you use the gasket supplied with the gen xtal?


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[watchservicesny]

Did you try a 2.1 or 2.0 gasket


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[botsyboy]

Did you try a 2.1 or 2.0 gasket


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No bud. Smallest cousins had at the time was 2.3.

 

[botsyboy]

Did you use the gasket supplied with the gen xtal?


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No bud as I bought the crystal loose away from its original packaging.