KW is the pick. Pearl and CP are the main things to look out for with this one. Seagull is low beat but fine with such a small second hand. If you can get the seagull with a flat pearl and CP, go for it. But it seems to me that the CP and pearl isn't as good so be careful and ask for a close pic of each.
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KW is the pick. Pearl and CP are the main things to look out for with this one. Seagull is low beat but fine with such a small second hand. If you can get the seagull with a flat pearl and CP, go for it. But it seems to me that the CP and pearl isn't as good so be careful and ask for a close pic of each.
I've changed my mind on the TD to purchase from for this watch... after much research on the service and replies from 3 dealers I've chosen Sead.
I've just got back the QC pics (I didn't even know 640x480 was a format people still use these days) and they 'seem' acceptable despite their tiny size and resolution... so I guess it's on it's way! So excited!
I've just got back the QC pics (I didn't even know 640x480 was a format people still use these days) and they 'seem' acceptable despite their tiny size and resolution... so I guess it's on it's way! So excited!
Here my Pam569 KW V6F from TSWatch, having issue with the local courier got my address but was sorted out and arrived today... Nice and loving it, now waiting for my new strap to come...
You guys are aware we have talented modders on the forums that can fix CP issues, right? We collectively have unrealistic expectations. Get one, send to a modder, and you're good to go. Dealers must be pulling their hair out these days.
Well of course if the CP situation were the norm than the exception and you have access to a modder, then it's no problem at all. But if you could get it fixed OTB fairly easily and modders did not exist in your neck of the woods (and it's a big possibility), then it would be the route you'd want to go.
I got my seagull the other day from sead, looks great. The cp was not pointy in mine but it can def be modded, I may have dochere2 do sone work on it after I wear it for a while
Just Received a seagull movement KW 569 and it's very very noisy compared to the KW A7750 PAMs 438 or bronzo that I own. As I don't have any watchmakers or modders to turn to, this issue is very irritating! Some of us really appreciate items as advertised when we buy the rep. Purchase decisions are done with full knowledge of its flaws so we know what to expect. This noisy movement is really unexpected and it's likely My 569 will be a box queen now.
Did you discuss this with your dealer? What did he propose to do about the situation?
TBH I don't think the dealer will do anything about a noisy rotor as long as the watch works fine.
Imho rotor noise is a very subjective matter.
Possibly oiling it a bit would already help, he could try fixing it himself, or bring it to a watchsmith, or live with it. Selling it m2m should not be difficult at a very modest loss also.
Hmm, this hs not crossed my mind. I will write to him and find out what I can do... thanks, for the suggestion
This's what I was thinking... it is a working watch so I will have to live with it. The fact that some of us are not able to fix our watches and do not have watch smiths around who would touch reps are really stuck with what we buy. I will try to write to my TD as Mysterio suggested as see what can be done. I have already written the watch off to be honest so a quick mail wouldn't hurt...
Anyway, just for info. does anyone know if the seagull movements are generally noisier the the A7750? If it is indeed, I will stay away from them in future
I highly doubt a TD will accept return because of that. Also it means costly shipping back and customs risk.
Send it to modder wont cost much, some lub at right places at it will be fine most likely.
There are modders at this site and more on others who can fix it, so cant really see what the problem is.
Send it to modder wont cost much, some lub at right places at it will be fine most likely.
There are modders at this site and more on others who can fix it, so cant really see what the problem is.
So, is this an inherent issue with the ST2555 or is it a one off?
I haven't read about this until now and I've just ordered the PAM 569 with ST2555 from Sead; I don't think it's shipped yet.
I haven't read about this until now and I've just ordered the PAM 569 with ST2555 from Sead; I don't think it's shipped yet.
I have different Pam KW models using both the ST and the 7750. Not experienced any noisy rotors on my Pam 351, pam 386 and Pam 359, which are all on ST2555. In fact, i can feel the rotor more on my Pam 243 a7750. Perhaps it's your specific watch.
my 441 with st2555 movement is very quiet. i've owned a 7750 pam 312 before and that was noisy as anything
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OF COURSE, this noisy rotor is a specific problem of your watch
Usually A7750 rotors are more noisy than Seagull. But decoration of movements produces additional issues like that
Try to get the help of a watchsmith before nothing, maybe some oiling or a little adjustment is enough
Anyway that is a very "small" problem for a rep. Try to understand it.
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Usually A7750 rotors are more noisy than Seagull. But decoration of movements produces additional issues like that
Try to get the help of a watchsmith before nothing, maybe some oiling or a little adjustment is enough
Anyway that is a very "small" problem for a rep. Try to understand it.
ALE