Yeah that poll had 38% of people supporting Obamacare and 16% who didn't think it went far enough. I see your frustration, but its not like you see that every day. Of course there are always bad apples, but you don't punish everyone for it.
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US Government Shutdown
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Yeah that poll had 38% of people supporting Obamacare and 16% who didn't think it went far enough. I see your frustration, but its not like you see that every day. Of course there are always bad apples, but you don't punish everyone for it.
TB you must remember that hardcore leftists don't have a sense of humor. They are too angry to laugh at any of it.
Now quick, where is that popcorn guy :cheer:
So please those of you in other countries, don't scratch
your heads too hard on this:
Hahah! I'll scratch my rep itch instead :crazy:
I just got back from a Boston vacation.
"Don't thread on me!"
"No taxation without reps!"
(Wait, that's not, uh...)
"Don't thread on me!"
"No taxation without reps!"
(Wait, that's not, uh...)
The big question is:
When do you politically informed people (i am not) ANTICIPATE an agreement to be reached?
Obviously nobody knows, but an educated guess if possible!
When do you politically informed people (i am not) ANTICIPATE an agreement to be reached?
Obviously nobody knows, but an educated guess if possible!
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Well it had better be before Wednesday next or the asshats are going to screw it for everyone world wide. The implications of the US defaulting on her debt are too awful to contemplate.
I am sick and tired of a few asshats on the other side of the damn world destroying my finances!
Pull your bloody heads in and realise that blocking supply is wrong and an inappropiate response when you can't get your own way. The majority have spoken (wrongly IMO but that's beside the point) and that is what happens in a democracy! You lost the vote, live with it.
The sad thing TB is coming from America and living in Australia. I can see Australia following the U.S. In the way they model their laws and way of life. It's like Australian government looks up to the American dream and want to create the same thing here, All the way down to when a prime minister gets to meet with "The Great And Powerful Leader" The President. They act like its such a humbling honour, shame really that they would put the leader of another country in a higher status then their self. They should hold their status as just as high as him.
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Gotta agree, we blindly follow the US in many things and it's not good.
Even our language is being polluted let alone politics and protocol.
It will be interesting to see how Abbott reacts, the worst was probably Howard who worshiped the ground POTUS walked on.
Even our language is being polluted let alone politics and protocol.
It will be interesting to see how Abbott reacts, the worst was probably Howard who worshiped the ground POTUS walked on.
These 40 or 50 Tea Party nut jobs are entrenched where they can't be removed by the ballet box, they don't represent the will of the majority of the people......
They've proven they're willingness to do harm to the country if they're not given concessions that their wealthy donors want....
By definition, if they harm the good faith of our country through causing a default against the will of the majority of the people in turn breaking the fourteenth amendment to the constitution, they are traders to the republic and should be treated as such.
Obamacare for better or worse is a law passed through two branches of government and signed by a president, vetted by a election, and upheld by the SupremeCourt...If you don't like it there is a procedure to change it, but it involves winning elections and controlling all the branches of government through them, not through staging a coup de tat.....
They've proven they're willingness to do harm to the country if they're not given concessions that their wealthy donors want....
By definition, if they harm the good faith of our country through causing a default against the will of the majority of the people in turn breaking the fourteenth amendment to the constitution, they are traders to the republic and should be treated as such.
Obamacare for better or worse is a law passed through two branches of government and signed by a president, vetted by a election, and upheld by the SupremeCourt...If you don't like it there is a procedure to change it, but it involves winning elections and controlling all the branches of government through them, not through staging a coup de tat.....
Nice Democrat talking points. I don't consider wanting smaller less intrusive government to be a 'Nut Job' position to take. Its what our founding fathers designed and what made us great until the progressives started ruining this country. And as far as Obamacare being the law? Slavery also use to be the law passed through two branches of government and signed by a president, vetted by many elections, and upheld by the supreme court. I guess Republicans shouldn't have fought to end that either.
And if you want to understand the government 'slimdown' since about 85% of it is still open read this article by Thomas Sowell
http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2013/oct/06/thomas-sowell-who-shut-down-the-federal/
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here here! It is my opinion that Obamacare is flawed, heavily flawed but as I said it passed so that is that. Holding a country to ransom by blocking supply when you don't get your way is just plain wrong. I don't like it when it happens here either (as it inevitably does now and again, very rare tho) regardless of which party is responsible. Basically it's blackmailing and/or holding to ransom the duly elected representatives of the people.
Knowing the American feeling for the importance of due process I'm genuinely surprised I can't hear the screams of protest from here. Regardless of who they support this should be abhorrent to anyone who understands how government is supposed to work, it's just plain wrong!
Well, that's one conservative's view. Hoover is a bastion of the deep right.
Interested in another ? Including Fox News video. Go here: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewi...responsible-for-the-government-shutdown-video
King is a conservative, in his own words.
King is a progressive big government GOP establishment guy. He is no small government constitutional conservative. George Bush was the same way.
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Honestly if you think that George Bush and King are progressive, there is no point in even arguing. Also, you have a very weak understanding of US History if you believe that the Republicans of Abraham Lincoln's day are the same Republican Party as today.