Greetings, getting ready to pull trigger on my first Rep

[turbojesse]

I've owned a GEN GMT Master circa 1980 which I bought for ~ $1200 new (with trade in) and sold 25 years later for $7000. In all that time I've had many people ask to look at my watch but no one ask if it was real or take a critical look at every nuance about it. So, if the watch looks real, feels real and tells decent time then I'm all in since I can no longer afford $10K watches. Soooo.....I'll probably be damned to the 7th level of hell but I'm looking to get the the Rolex - GMT-Master II 116710 LN A3186 Best Edition with the Swiss ETA 2836-2 25j automatic movement at 28800 bhp from Puretime. I'm a little conflicted (after reading a lot of the great info on this website) about the "Swiss" movement vs the Asian 2836 25j clone.

My question for the experienced guys is: is the "swiss" clone worth the extra $120 in terms of longevity and ability to keep time?

I'll have another question about servicing when I actually get the watch. Appreciate your thoughts.

- Turbo

 

[Luthier]

You said you've read a lot. And still asking this question?
It was answered 14,826 times.

 

[turbojesse]

yes I am. I don't claim to know it all or to have read it all with a critical mind. If you have some insight I'd appreciate it. My inclination is to go for it.

 

[turbojesse]

And where was it answered 14K times?

 

[DVNE]

Save your money and go with the Asian clone 2836-2.

Welcome to RWI BTW!

 

[TESLA760]

And where was it answered 14K times?

Actually , 19k times.

 

[threeputtbogey]

I have a 2836-2 Swiss that runs like a champ. Haven't had a it or an asian clone long enough to say which one will last longer however.

 

[Jeremy]

Get the a2836 and save your money for your next one, which will inevitably be ordered while you're waiting for the first one to arrive.

 

[turbojesse]

I knew I was going to fu*k up my first post. You guys are as bad as Marines are to boots! I know, I've been on both sides of that particular fence.

Ok then, I'll do the Asian 2836 and report back on my experience. After that I'm looking at A. Lange & Sohne Rep for a nice dress watch.

 

[threeputtbogey]

I knew I was going to fu*k up my first post. You guys are as bad as Marines are to boots! I know, I've been on both sides of that particular fence.

Ok then, I'll do the Asian 2836 and report back on my experience. After that I'm looking at A. Lange & Sohne Rep for a nice dress watch.

Nice. Good luck!

 

[turbojesse]

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[dznrguy]

Get the asian. Sometimes the swiss are re-makes of older movements, or worse yet, not actually swiss.

 

[turbojesse]

Thanks. More research is in order.

 

[smokiedabong]

Get the asian movement.

 

[turbojesse]

Pulled the trigger

After re-researching the forum articles on ROlex's and the different movements and on the advice of members to go with the "Asian" 2836 movement, I ordered the
"GMT-Master II 116710 LN REAL CERAMIC BEZEL (Asian 2836 clone automatic movement)"
from Puretime.

After failing with Visa I used Western Union and the payment went through fine with a 10% discount on the price. I used EMS and so far it has cleared Chinese customs and is still in GUANGZHOU with dispatch from sorting center.

My only confusion relates to the version I ordered vs the so called "Best Edition" supposedly made from a Gen sample. Aren't they all?

This is confusing since it uses the same movement and I doubt any but an expert can tell the difference. Am I right? In all the years I owned a Gen GMT Master, no one ever asked me if it was real or asked to examine it.

Here are the QC photos:

 

[TESLA760]

" made from GEN as sample " is a gimmick used by all dealers.

 

[Ruski91]

only big time difference that will stand out (from less than 4 ft away only) is the ceramic bezel insert. One of our members here piliworx just made a franken by getting a gen insert and it truly is a night and day difference.

But its a beautiful watch and your qc looks great, Enjoy it!

 

[turbojesse]

Just landed in New York. Now to see if it clears customs.

 

[iggypop]

It will

 

[aligborat69]

Post a pic of your original you sold! Also your findings on this GMT because I'm going to get the same one for my collection