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Clean new released 226627 Titanium Yacht Master comparison with GEN

dmatt

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I can’t understand the fear to scratch a replica watch to be honest, reps, or gens, are meant to be used and if they scratch is not a big deal, but with a rep you can get a new one if you are that picky…
Scratches are patina and often an additive good thing - now gouges are a whole different thing!
 
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serumdiesel

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All Titanium alloys, they have slightly lower hardness compared to SS, so not scratch resistant as steel no matter what.

Grade 5 titanium has a vickers hardness of 350-400 HV. Both 316l and 904l stainless steel are 150-200 HV.

Yes, stainless steel can be treated to achieve up to 230 HV, but that still falls substantially short of grade 5 titanium’s baseline which can also be treated to achieve up to 400 HV.

Grade 5 titanium is substantially more scratch resistant than stainless steel.
 
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manuninja

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just my own Titanium experience with watches: I haven't a YM /CF Titanium yet but a Seiko Sportura Titanium and it scratches; however with a special brush for watch cases I can remove the scratches what I do time by time.
could you post a link to this special brush? i'm very curious. thanks
 
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Scoutman725

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Can you share on here? If you have approved you can.
 

manuninja

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Grade 5 titanium has a vickers hardness of 350-400 HV. Both 316l and 904l stainless steel are 150-200 HV.

Yes, stainless steel can be treated to achieve up to 230 HV, but that still falls substantially short of grade 5 titanium’s baseline which can also be treated to achieve up to 400 HV.

Grade 5 titanium is substantially more scratch resistant than stainless steel.
Ok, thank you very much for the valuable information.

I am very sorry but I don't have a link - I bought it 10-15 years ago in a local Brick & Mortar shop for watchmaker equipment. The shop had different grains/ I bought the finest when I remember right and I use it with a drilling machine in slow motion:
Ok thanks friend. If I ever need it, I'll know what to look for.
Looks great. The serial number doesn't seem to line up, but most replicas have that problem and it doesn't show when you're wearing it.
Great purchase! I can't wait to get it too.
 

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Grade 5 titanium has a vickers hardness of 350-400 HV. Both 316l and 904l stainless steel are 150-200 HV.

Yes, stainless steel can be treated to achieve up to 230 HV, but that still falls substantially short of grade 5 titanium’s baseline which can also be treated to achieve up to 400 HV.

Grade 5 titanium is substantially more scratch resistant than stainless steel.
I mean yes and no but I don't want to get into a conversation about austenitic and annealed materials. In real life daily use Titanium will get scratched no matter what.

I think the practical conclusion should still be : the watch will still scratch normally.

Anyways - the price for this watch is crazy. Almost the same price as a DD3285 GMT or a VSF 4130 Daytona.... I can't say it's good value at $500+
 

serumdiesel

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I mean yes and no but I don't want to get into a conversation about austenitic and annealed materials. In real life daily use Titanium will get scratched no matter what.

I think the practical conclusion should still be : the watch will still scratch normally.

Anyways - the price for this watch is crazy. Almost the same price as a DD3285 GMT or a VSF 4130 Daytona.... I can't say it's good value at $500+

Grade 5 titanium is a beast, and the data on the matter is crystal clear: it’s harder and more scratch resistant than stainless steel.

But yes, it will still scratch and there’s no way to prevent it from developing signs of wear. People shouldn’t be shying away from it due to fear of scratches, though, when it’s actually superior to the alternatives in that regard.

Pricing is definitely up there, but I think Clean is gonna make a pretty penny on this.