OME Maker 5712 New release

[poseidon.]

Yep, I know. I actually prefer this version as the Patek Philippe engraving in the V2 is bigger than gen (I think the V1 has the more accurate engraving) and I personally prefer that over the more accurate to gen jewel and D shaped hole.

I wasn't aware there was a difference in the second hand between V1 and V2, what's that about?

You probably just got a really early version. You got stock hands, it should be different. For example the second hand should be painted white in the center as it is in gen. I wasn’t aware of the new one being thicker but it seems like they are just throwing random mods in there, no consistency at all, every picture of the watch has some differences. Maybe its better to wait a bit until they are all the same

 

[poseidon.]

The moonphase on your qc also doesn’t look good at all, nothing like the other pictures. At least you got decent pinion caps on the center and date unlike other afwul ones on pictures i have seen

 

[fletch512]

The moonphase on your qc also doesn’t look good at all, nothing like the other pictures. At least you got decent pinion caps on the center and date unlike other afwul ones on pictures i have seen

What's wrong with the moonphase? Albeit I'm not an expert on the different discs available for mods, but this looks better than the stock PPF light blue disc.

 

[poseidon.]

What's wrong with the moonphase? Albeit I'm not an expert on the different discs available for mods, but this looks better than the stock PPF light blue disc.

It’s better but still pretty bad. You can compare it to this one, this is actually a pretty good moonphase and also an ome watch:



The background is a very dark blue, almost black. On the qc it looks like the background has the same color as the dial, way too light and grey.

Here is a gen for reference:

 

[poseidon.]

Here you can see it side by side. Looks like they used one of the bad ones for this watch

 

[JaceBeleren]

Another video I found of the OME on Youtube. This is a V2 based on the movement engravings/jewels. It's in Chinese but you get to see the watch being moving around and measured instead of just static images.

 

[jimbo]

Where is the v2 for sale?

 

[ciccio82]

if Puretime sells the OME 5712 why does it have such horribly crooked indices in the photos? it should be a detailed replica...

 

[Dodgie]

if Puretime sells the OME 5712 why does it have such horribly crooked indices in the photos? it should be a detailed replica...

Ironically, crooked indices are a sign of Gen watches because we usually catch something like this in QC.

 

[Kitaro]

Ironically, crooked indices are a sign of Gen watches because we usually catch something like this in QC.

I ve seen crooked 12 o’clock on 5711 review on a very famous YouTube channel

 

[Dodgie]

I ve seen crooked 12 o’clock on 5711 review on a very famous YouTube channel

Yes - there was also a YouTube video comparing a 5712 gen with a PPF V2 and in the gen one index was literally upside-down afair.

Browsing through, e.g., Chrono24 makes you really wonder why QC at PP is lacking and appreciate how little gen owners care about this and therefore would never really spot a good rep.

 

[TagHeuerFan1963]

I love this model and the dial being terrible has held me off for years, now that this has been fixed on this version, I come with hat in hand, pleading for some insight. Does this model still function as a time bomb when it comes to the movement? How would one avoid the movement breaking? Is it easily repairable by watchmakers? Thanks folks.

 

[fletch512]

I love this model and the dial being terrible has held me off for years, now that this has been fixed on this version, I come with hat in hand, pleading for some insight. Does this model still function as a time bomb when it comes to the movement? How would one avoid the movement breaking? Is it easily repairable by watchmakers? Thanks folks.

The expert watch smiths on this forum would know best, but from what I've read the stock movement is fine (other than the steel rotor not being heavy enough to maintain a daily charge on the watch). I believe the more expensive clone VSV/ACE/whatever movement is the one that has had problems in the past and is not a recommended upgrade.

 

[zinduna]

The expert watch smiths on this forum would know best, but from what I've read the stock movement is fine (other than the steel rotor not being heavy enough to maintain a daily charge on the watch). I believe the more expensive clone VSV/ACE/whatever movement is the one that has had problems in the past and is not a recommended upgrade.

This is a newly cloned movement driving lots of complications. Spare parts are not readily available yet, and some parts in the movement are made with lower quality alloys. It may well need to be serviced and there aren't a lot of modders/ smiths who can and will work on it. My point is don't expect it to be hassle free and make sure you have your eyes open going in.

 

[fletch512]

This is a newly cloned movement driving lots of complications. Spare parts are not readily available yet, and some parts in the movement are made with lower quality alloys. It may well need to be serviced and there aren't a lot of modders/ smiths who can and will work on it. My point is don't expect it to be hassle free and make sure you have your eyes open going in.

True, but for most people it would probably cost about the same to just buy a replacement movement (~$400?) when and if it fails rather than try to get this serviced.

 

[Db9s]

I hope OME uses this as a stepping stone to create an affordable 5740 perpetual calendar!

 

[Dodgie]

True, but for most people it would probably cost about the same to just buy a replacement movement (~$400?) when and if it fails rather than try to get this serviced.

True, but this is also true with non clone movements like the heavily modded and reworked myiota 9015 ZF/PPF uses in a lot of PP watches.
The PPF 9015 just pretends to be a 9015 with readily available spare parts, but because they rotated and reworked the balance etc. etc. you can not really fix this at all . There is a lack of parts and even using other broken ZF/PPF 9015s as donors might not work as they update some things between releases etc.

So overall - apart from the really mass-produced clones in Rolexes that partly take gen parts, you can only easily service or repair proper uncloned movements or just use throwaway movements like asia clones of simpler movements like 2813s etc.

For the cloned PP movements I think there is at least the option to use a gen balance assembly for example afair, but a lot of parts are still not swappable see (https://forum.replica-watch.info/th...assembled-comparison-pictures-video.10938163/)
However - using Patek gen parts to repair is a rather uneconomic way to go about things anyway.

 

[Happyyeren]

So with this OME release i just need to change the pinion and its almost perfect? I was contemplating a spongebob 5712 but seeing OME has all the case works done i dont see the need for spongebob anymore.

 

[Lemans24h]

So with this OME release i just need to change the pinion and its almost perfect? I was contemplating a spongebob 5712 but seeing OME has all the case works done i dont see the need for spongebob anymore.

I think we would need to see more photos of actual delivered product before we can make any assumptions like this.

I have never had a SpongeBob build but my simple brain tells me that no factory can mass produce product for only a $300 mark up over a base PPF and achieve the same level of quality as a skilled craftsman who takes the necessary time and care to deliver reputable quality.

If they close 50% of the gap then it will be totally worth it for many, but for some the final details matter and I expect that will only be possible from someone like SpongeBob

 

[serumdiesel]

I think we would need to see more photos of actual delivered product before we can make any assumptions like this.

I have never had a SpongeBob build but my simple brain tells me that no factory can mass produce product for only a $300 mark up over a base PPF and achieve the same level of quality as a skilled craftsman who takes the necessary time and care to deliver reputable quality.

If they close 50% of the gap then it will be totally worth it for many, but for some the final details matter and I expect that will only be possible from someone like SpongeBob

That is correct. SpongeBob’s builds are unparalleled.