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Why is Aquatimer Chrono 3768 not more popular?

jj69

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I did an archive search here, and on every other rep form I know, and I can find very little info on this model. I am considering the V6F version. Is there a reason people are avoiding this piece? Is it just the large size, or are their QC issues or tells in the rep that I should be aware of?


 

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jj69

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People avoid watches that run on a A7750 movement because of significant reliability issues. Pretty sure by looking at the dial set-up, this runs on the A7750 movement.

I was -- am probably now leaning towards not being -- interested in an IWC pilot with the same movement.

There is a post going on this right now ... https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/anyone-had-experience-with-zf-pilot-chrono-3777.10987413/

Well, that would certainly be a silly reason! Given that many other 7750-based reps sell well, I have a hard time believing that the reason for the lack of discussion on the 3768. I'm just hoping there are no major flaws in the design, and I'm hoping someone can tell me if the V6SF is the best version or not.

Seriously, the whole "A7750 reliability issues" is a MYTH! I've literally owned over a hundred A7750-based reps and only two of them had issues. One had the old low beat version of the A7750, which everyone knew had reliability issues (and which hasn't been used in a rep for at least a decade) and the other was in a V3 Super Avenger, which was known to have gotten a bad batch of movements. Other than those two - the other 98 A7750's - have never given me even a glimmer of trouble. In fact, I've had a higher ratio of bad A2824 movements over the years. So please, can we all stop wtih the fear of the A7750?
 

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Well, that would certainly be a silly reason! Given that many other 7750-based reps sell well, I have a hard time believing that the reason for the lack of discussion on the 3768. I'm just hoping there are no major flaws in the design, and I'm hoping someone can tell me if the V6SF is the best version or not.

Seriously, the whole "A7750 reliability issues" is a MYTH! I've literally owned over a hundred A7750-based reps and only two of them had issues. One had the old low beat version of the A7750, which everyone knew had reliability issues (and which hasn't been used in a rep for at least a decade) and the other was in a V3 Super Avenger, which was known to have gotten a bad batch of movements. Other than those two - the other 98 A7750's - have never given me even a glimmer of trouble. In fact, I've had a higher ratio of bad A2824 movements over the years. So please, can we all stop wtih the fear of the A7750?
Don't worry. There's a guy on here that will die on the hill of the 7750 being a problem. I'm sure he will chime in.
 

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Seriously, the whole "A7750 reliability issues" is a MYTH! I've literally owned over a hundred A7750-based reps and only two of them had issues. One had the old low beat version of the A7750, which everyone knew had reliability issues (and which hasn't been used in a rep for at least a decade) and the other was in a V3 Super Avenger, which was known to have gotten a bad batch of movements. Other than those two - the other 98 A7750's - have never given me even a glimmer of trouble. In fact, I've had a higher ratio of bad A2824 movements over the years. So please, can we all stop wtih the fear of the A7750?

I sooo want this to be true. It's dumb. And, I think that maybe I have done too much research and it has scared me away. It's just hard to filter out the 7750 trolls ... there are a lot of them.

For what it's worth, I do also agree that this is a sharp watch.
 

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I sooo want this to be true. It's dumb. And, I think that maybe I have done too much research and it has scared me away. It's just hard to filter out the 7750 trolls ... there are a lot of them.

For what it's worth, I do also agree that this is a sharp watch.

Any time you buy a Chinese movement, you can get a bad one. I'm not doubting the fact that others may have had bad luck. It happens. Heck, I've had bad luck with SWISS movements. The whole A7750 myth started 15-20 years ago when the old low beat A7750 was still being used by several factories, but those days are long gone. As a rule of thumb, if you see people (i.e. more than 1 isolated incident) complaining about getting a bad A7750 from a particular rep made by a particular factory, then there's a chance that there's a bad batch in circulation and it would pay to be cautious. Otherwise, if the movement runs well when you first receive it, then there's a good chance it will continue to run fairly well for years to come. If it doesn't run well, contact your TD asap.
 

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I am a fan of the Aquatimer line but the 3768 is too thick for me.
That's the biggest "flaw" in my book.
 

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Any time you buy a Chinese movement, you can get a bad one. I'm not doubting the fact that others may have had bad luck. It happens. Heck, I've had bad luck with SWISS movements. The whole A7750 myth started 15-20 years ago when the old low beat A7750 was still being used by several factories, but those days are long gone. As a rule of thumb, if you see people (i.e. more than 1 isolated incident) complaining about getting a bad A7750 from a particular rep made by a particular factory, then there's a chance that there's a bad batch in circulation and it would pay to be cautious. Otherwise, if the movement runs well when you first receive it, then there's a good chance it will continue to run fairly well for years to come. If it doesn't run well, contact your TD asap.
This makes a lot of sense and is reassuring. Thank you for this post.
 

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Hice una búsqueda en el archivo aquí y en todos los demás formularios de representación que conozco, y pude encontrar muy poca información sobre este modelo. Estoy considerando la versión V6F. ¿Hay alguna razón por la que la gente esté evitando esta pieza? ¿Es solo el tamaño grande o hay problemas de control de calidad o señales en la representación que debo tener en cuenta?


 

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Muy fácil. Porque el 88% de la gente lleva relojes Rolex de mierda. Este reloj que mencionas y muchos otros modelos son 40.000 veces mejores que Rolex, en precisión y, si te gusta IWC, también en diseño. Es como los franceses. Ellos saben vender su vino mejor que nadie, Rolex es igual.
Tengo un cronógrafo Top Gun y ahora también llegará pronto la edición 35 aniversario del Aquatimer (no es un cronógrafo), también de VS6.
 

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Muy fácil. Porque el 88% de la gente lleva relojes Rolex de mierda. Este reloj que mencionas y muchos otros modelos son 40.000 veces mejores que Rolex, en precisión y, si te gusta IWC, también en diseño. Es como los franceses. Ellos saben vender su vino mejor que nadie, Rolex es igual.
Tengo un cronógrafo Top Gun y ahora también llegará pronto la edición 35 aniversario del Aquatimer (no es un cronógrafo), también de VS6.

Nice that Aquatimer, comparte algunas fotos cuando lo recibas por favor :)
 

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Looks nice!
Curious to know if the case is 42mm or 44mm.

I own old models, I am a big fan of the Aquatimer line






 
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La caja es de 42. Una pregunta, ¿venden el Cousteau? ¿O saben dónde puedo conseguir uno? Gracias
No, no es Cousteau.
Es la versión de 42 mm, 3719.

Mis IWC "antiguos" (tambien 3717 e Mark XVI 3255) son los relojes que más me gustan.
No creo que los venda nunca. :(

Ni siquiera tengo rolex, me gustan pero no soporto la imagen que tiene la marca.
 

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7750 is one of the most reliable movements in gen form.

The reason why in the past A7750s werent reliable is because of the crappy chinese manufacturing. These days the A7750s are pretty damn reliable even with Sec@6 and Sec@12 movements.

It was way back like 2010 - 2014 or so that these asian 7750s were not so reliable.
 

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7750 es uno de los movimientos más confiables en forma genérica.

La razón por la que en el pasado los A7750 no eran confiables era la mala fabricación china. Hoy en día, los A7750 son bastante confiables incluso con movimientos Sec@6 y Sec@12.

Fue allá por el año 2010-2014 aproximadamente cuando estos 7750 asiáticos no eran tan confiables.
Tengo dos, un Iwc pilot y un omega y sinceramente.... Son movimientos que funcionan pero no toques demasiado el cronómetro.
 

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Even Eta 7750s might have issue with the chrono sweep hand (not resetting properly due to slipping subdual hands and sweep chrono hand). It's good practice not to use the stop watch too often.

I am very cautions with my eta 7750s too and gen handsets.