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Crazy 5712 by SWF and VSV cal. 240 Super Clone

watchfreak812

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I'd go with stock movements and VSV plates! cheaper alternative but still looks closer to gen when you see the rear.
 

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Hi guys, I spent some time to check better this cal. 240 Superclone and what bother me - considering the price they’re asking for it - is that as always it is not a real clone: there is a missing screw hole on the plate where is engraved “Patek Philippe” and a wrong jewel on the little plate where is engraved the “240”… more than 2k $ to have semiclone…too much… I hope that they will fix it and fix even the price…too high.
For 3188$ I pretend 24k rotor included and a real superclone.

Anyway I hope to see in real life asap this watch to understand better the dial and have a comparison with the gen 5712 of a friend. There are some variations of the 5712 dials…to me this SW v3(?) seems really well made, based on the 2016 version of the gen.
The movement plate already have extra modification that can be done on this movement to get the corret jewel.
And the pictures shown is a gen dial , not a sw v3 . And there is no such dial as v3 sw. only v2 is available
 

arter97

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Did you guys see Chazing posted 2 different watches - with SWF dial and hands, and a one with VSV dial and hands?
Which one do you think is better? The VSV watch is slightly higher than SWF.
I really wanted to get my hands on a mod, but now I am confused.
One thing I understood from this forum is to stay away from the free sprung balance (the highest priced version) , right?
 
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kelvinmd99

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That’s what my understanding is - i ordered the swf two weeks ago but still waiting for QC …
 

kelvinmd99

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Chazingtime - I contacted them and they said watch is still in process of being modded,
 

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I was waiting for SW 5167 dial for over 2 months, and when I received pics the QC are terrible, you guys want to waste your money and time just go for it. For what I know is SW look pretty nice on show you the "official photos", but when you try to order , it's gonna be different when they show you. The QC from SW are really terrible!
 

arter97

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Does anyone knows the difference between the two models? Which version is better?
 
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kelvinmd99

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I was waiting for SW 5167 dial for over 2 months, and when I received pics the QC are terrible, you guys want to waste your money and time just go for it. For what I know is SW look pretty nice on show you the "official photos", but when you try to order , it's gonna be different when they show you. The QC from SW are really terrible!
Already paid and my date is in their hands 🙌
 

kelvinmd99

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Dial looks great and engraving is somewhat passable. I don’t think any of the other engravings by other molders come close to gen though.
 
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Is that their watch with mods for around $1600?
Yes that’s right, if u don’t want engraving on the plates then it’s about 1300. The mods includes SW dial, hands, pinions, beveled indices and also some case polishing and making the end links more flexible
 
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Yes that’s right, if u don’t want engraving on the plates then it’s about 1300. The mods includes SW dial, hands, pinions, beveled indices and also some case polishing and making the end links more flexible
What was the waiting time?