Which R-lex type is easier to replicate and has fewest flaws?

[CurioLeo]

yes.
I spotted a guy in the office with Speedster, he said he saved on his college funds to get it and he still wear Seiko or something in normal days and Speedster is only for some Christmas party.

So I assumed that Oyster Perpetual is in the same range as Speedster and might be ok to wear.

Maybe, something up to 10k, so I start to look at steel Datejust 41 ( I guess gen is in the range of 8k ), submariner ( starts from 9.1k ).

I like rubber strap but I guess all watches on rubber starts from 15-20k which is already too much for the average office.

Easy, get the best Explorer rep and buy a gen Rubber B strap made specifically for it (it actually also fits the Submariner). Gen price would be in your comfortable range, the 39mm is generally available used now that the 40mm has replaced it and you get the same quality and comfort as an oysterflex strap. Oh, and it's a Speedmaster. If you keep calling it a Speedster, no one will believe you are into watches

 

[Karbon74]

My advice is just to buy the watch you like.
VSF OP, Clean or BP Exp1, VSF Sub, Clean Dayto...you can't go wrong on those

get it in hand and for real. If you don't like it, sell it, it will go fast; or get it modded/franken

At this point you are in paralysis by analysis, based on what you read on forums from totally random strangers.

If you are nitpicky to that level, then reps are just not for you. Save up and buy a gen.

 

[Karabas]

Easy, get the best Explorer rep and buy a gen Rubber B strap made specifically for it (it actually also fits the Submariner). Gen price would be in your comfortable range, the 39mm is generally available used now that the 40mm has replaced it and you get the same quality and comfort as an oysterflex strap. Oh, and it's a Speedmaster. If you keep calling it a Speedster, no one will believe you are into watches

Is anyone get a rubber strap on steel submariner no date gen?

 

[Karabas]

My advice is just to buy the watch you like.
VSF OP, Clean or BP Exp1, VSF Sub, Clean Dayto...you can't go wrong on those

get it in hand and for real. If you don't like it, sell it, it will go fast; or get it modded/franken

At this point you are in paralysis by analysis, based on what you read on forums from totally random strangers.

If you are nitpicky to that level, then reps are just not for you. Save up and buy a gen.

You did not mention DateJust 41. Is it because they are easier to spot flaws?

Also what is your advice on strap:
metal is comfortable enough or is it ok to replace it with oyster flex from TD for $50 ? For instance, Sub no date on oyster flex (oyster flex is only for gold, right? )

 

[CurioLeo]

Is anyone get a rubber strap on steel submariner no date gen?

No difference between 14060 and 16610

 

[WatchSmith.US]

 

[Karabas]

No difference between 14060 and 16610

I have read that only Oyster Flex is a rubber strap which is used on gen. And this is only available for white gold.
This one looks like something else I guess is Rubber B. Is it allowed to use on gen?

 

[budi90]

Hello @Karabas

I bought a DJ 41 VSF Jubilee with a blue dial last week. I am very satisfied with the quality and color fidelity! I'm no Rep expert, but I think I made a very good choice!

Yesterday I got another DJ 36 with a black dial with jubilee, also VSF Factory.

 

[kiasunkiasi]

thanks for posting it.
question about strap:
does it get scratched? have you tried to remove scratches or its not visible or part of the deal with metal?
does metal bracelet less comfortable then rubber? makes some noises, rattle on hand?

I don't get why people are scared of scratches on watches... moreover it's a Rep that we are talking about
the only way that a watch can remain in pristine condition is to keep it inside a safe
life is short just enjoy your moment instead of worrying about scratches which can be resolve with another watch

 

[Storm.]

Seriously?

 

[kiasunkiasi]

Is anyone get a rubber strap on steel submariner no date gen?

I only has one Gen watch, an old 16570 Exp II, and usually I match it with rubber strap, leather strap or NATO strap instead of the old rattling bracelet

 

[Fisherman1980]

submariner. more gen parts available to make them even more gen like

 

[derjenigewelcher]

"Who has the best...."

In a very creative tuen.

Black Oyster Perpetual. If Bezel click is a problem on a sub, the winding and time setting feeling anyway is a dead give away difference between gen and rep. Goos luck

 

[Reaps]

"Who has the best...."

In a very creative tuen.

Black Oyster Perpetual. If Bezel click is a problem on a sub, the winding and time setting feeling anyway is a dead give away difference between gen and rep. Goos luck

I can beat you, the best option is to wear no watch. No watch? No tell.

 

[Karabas]

Hello @Karabas

I bought a DJ 41 VSF Jubilee with a blue dial last week. I am very satisfied with the quality and color fidelity! I'm no Rep expert, but I think I made a very good choice!

Yesterday I got another DJ 36 with a black dial with jubilee, also VSF Factory.

Can you please, post a photo?
I am interested in date glass, if its visible blue glass.

What do you think about jubilee, is it comfortable to wear?

 

[SpectralCoronet]

OP you are overthinking it bro!

Do you really like an Oyster Perpetual or a DJ over a sub or a daytona?

Trust me i have been there before, spending hours researching flaws and NWBIG (on that note have you seen this thread and list: https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/consensual-list-super-reps-nwbigs.308081/) but then the realisation dawned on me that wtf i need to go for my holy grail and the ones i want and not settle for any other piece just because they are closer to gen!
Btw i like the clarity in your thought process and the flowcharts of your mind mapping is brilliant, i feel life’s too short.

 

[budi90]

Hi, I'm attaching the photos I have with me. I didn't wear the watch much, but I saw that the 41mm is too big for my wrist, I already bought a 36mm one. The jubilee is very elegant and comfortable.
Perhaps lighter than the oyster bracelet.

I can send you more specific ones tomorrow if you want

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[Maximillian]

Hello,

After reading few threads, like "blue Datejust comparison" or "VSF vs clean Oyster Perpetual"

Gen, VSF, Clean, GM and AR, 41mm blue datejust detailed comparison

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I still cannot answer to myself following question:
which model is easiest to replicate ( replicas from VSF, Clean, Noob has fewer flaws ).


Anyone can help me with this?

From what I have already read and best guess I can say following:
1) simple dial - less details to replicate/make en error, flaws
2) black color - in many comparisons color is hard to replicate.
3) date - in many comparisons they pay attention to date glass, look, font which means its hard to replicate
4) metal - should be steel, no white gold
5) bracelet - in some reviews its "loose" or "rattle" - does it mean I should go for nylon or rubber or specific type of steel which is easier?

Also, I cannot evaluate severity or visibility of different flaws. So I cannot answer the question which flaws I can go with simply because I don't know how visible they are.
Example: I know that date glass might be bluish, I see that there is blue effect on all 3 pictures: Gen, VSF, Clean. So is it flaw or not?

Gathering all of these points, I guess, the best is to go with Oyster Perpetual 41 mm black.
Is it correct?

What is the next easiest from the bottom?
Oyster Perpetual other coolers, like blue or DateJust 41 black (depends of which flaws are more critical: date or blue color )

Well, every single Rolex rep is easy to replicate given the fact that if you change: the crystal, dial, hands, crown, bezel and bracelet. By doing this, your rep is impossible to be recognized as a rep visually, unless you are dumb enough to bring it to an AD. Which means if you are willing to put 10 grand on any rep, they are inevitable.

So the real question is: which model are you going to choose to invest 10 grand on it?

 

[Genuine]

No datewheel or cyclops or golden bezel and a black dial then you should consider the Explorer I.

But if you want a Datejust I wouldn’t worry to much, there is no need to go in for a smooth bezel in fact, it will be just fine. They are so good.

 

[Karabas]

OP you are overthinking it bro!

Do you really like an Oyster Perpetual or a DJ over a sub or a daytona?

Trust me i have been there before, spending hours researching flaws and NWBIG (on that note have you seen this thread and list: https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/consensual-list-super-reps-nwbigs.308081/) but then the realisation dawned on me that wtf i need to go for my holy grail and the ones i want and not settle for any other piece just because they are closer to gen!
Btw i like the clarity in your thought process and the flowcharts of your mind mapping is brilliant, i feel life’s too short.

I will write my opinion. Which might be different from your. Just my taste.

Yes, I have assosiation Sub with cheap $10 watch in my middle school. 12 years old boys were running with rotating bezel like on Sub. So this design for me associates with something like McDonalds. Rotating bezel, triangle on 12.00, round spots instead of numbers - all these you can find on all possible watches. If you don't see the label from 2 m distance - I cannot even tell if this watch is good.

Same idea with big ceramic bezel but super modern look for me is Hublot, AP.

At about 12 y.o. I also had an Orient watch in similar style and color to OP silver. So this style is just "simple" to me. But acceptable.

So yes, most of R-lex designs for me looks cheap and old, like cars from 80th.
DJ41 in some mint green or grey colours is at least average by look. Only because of moderately untypical design because of the eye and untypical color.

Same with bracelet. My opinion - metal is outdated design. 90% of watches around are rubber black or silver - because all iwatch/android watch are like this.
One of the reason why I am looking for rubber strap and black watch - because it has more modern look.