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Rolex GMT II C V2 and V3 comparison
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ok, I tried to fix the pic... does it work now? It's a really lousy phone picture anyway... I should try and take some nicer ones.
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I want to buy the watch you wrote about, but I am not sure if this one is the same.
Please, your advise. I am a little confused, because you tell that the steal is 316L and Marvellous is talking about 316F
http://www.marvellousreplica.com/Product_Detail.aspx?ProductID=201005080331
Please, your advise. I am a little confused, because you tell that the steal is 316L and Marvellous is talking about 316F
http://www.marvellousreplica.com/Product_Detail.aspx?ProductID=201005080331
MR has 2 GMT IIc's...
One has 316L and one has 316F. As far as I can tell from his site, that's the only difference between the 2.
One has 316L and one has 316F. As far as I can tell from his site, that's the only difference between the 2.
Well , I bought two of those watches and both had problems ,
one was stopping every day untill finally the stem rotates without winding. we took it to the repair shop and he said it was jammed and he can fix it .
the second one is stopping every few days ( i wear it every day ) and another problem was that the minute and hour arms are not aligned properly ( i can notice that at mid day and midnight.
something apparant in almost all reps is the shiny part of the strap or watch is not very smooth and you can notice some bumps.
I think you wont have such problems with MR because you can QC
good luck ..
and to be honest .. this watch is REAAAALLLY an eye catcher.
one was stopping every day untill finally the stem rotates without winding. we took it to the repair shop and he said it was jammed and he can fix it .
the second one is stopping every few days ( i wear it every day ) and another problem was that the minute and hour arms are not aligned properly ( i can notice that at mid day and midnight.
something apparant in almost all reps is the shiny part of the strap or watch is not very smooth and you can notice some bumps.
I think you wont have such problems with MR because you can QC
good luck ..
and to be honest .. this watch is REAAAALLLY an eye catcher.
Looks fantastic Guru, getting a hard time to choose now...
This one, or a SS DSSD, AP ROO or another Hublot...
Well better put em all in a list for future collecting
/Jiddy
This one, or a SS DSSD, AP ROO or another Hublot...
Well better put em all in a list for future collecting
/Jiddy
Well then I better drop by the PO to pick it up after my trip to Italy
PT was happy to help me out, damn friendly that guy!
On my way to try the gen version right now.
/J
PT was happy to help me out, damn friendly that guy!
On my way to try the gen version right now.
/J
Jumping into that thread, as I just got mine, modded with FineDD's AR coating and AR coated cyclop (pics to follow, I promise).
I have a few Rolex noob questions, I apologize in advance
- I watched a video on Youtube, and what I see is the main hour hand jumping in one hour increments, not the GMT... :wacko:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76RAJWQoosE"]YouTube- Rolex GMT Master II Review[/ame]
What's wrong ?
- @Roo : so you swapped the old ETA movement (now also available in the V3 version, as I have one) : but what's the reason you can get a correct hand stack and not in the new reason ? I mean, is this something which can be corrected by a watchsmith ?
- regarding the cyclop magnification : FineDD's cyclop magnyfies 2.5x, which is probably not a big difference with the 2.3x of the rep out of the box, except that it has the huge advantage of being AR coated... But... I read somewhere here that the gen has 1.5x magnification, i.e. the rep would be too much ? :thinking:
Thx for enlighting me
I have a few Rolex noob questions, I apologize in advance
- I watched a video on Youtube, and what I see is the main hour hand jumping in one hour increments, not the GMT... :wacko:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76RAJWQoosE"]YouTube- Rolex GMT Master II Review[/ame]
What's wrong ?
- @Roo : so you swapped the old ETA movement (now also available in the V3 version, as I have one) : but what's the reason you can get a correct hand stack and not in the new reason ? I mean, is this something which can be corrected by a watchsmith ?
- regarding the cyclop magnification : FineDD's cyclop magnyfies 2.5x, which is probably not a big difference with the 2.3x of the rep out of the box, except that it has the huge advantage of being AR coated... But... I read somewhere here that the gen has 1.5x magnification, i.e. the rep would be too much ? :thinking:
Thx for enlighting me
@ Pix:
That GMT on the video is a GEN.
...the GEN Rolex GMTs set the second timezone with the hour hand jumping in one hour increments, not as the reps that change the GMT hand positioning...
This happens on all Rolex GMT models (GMT-II, GMT-IIc and Explorer II)
Cheers,
Spirit.
@ Pix:
lol Yeah, mate
...The Rolex copy movement doesn´t replicate the GEN in it´s features.
It works as good as, since you can set a different timezone on the rep aswell, but just not in the same way as the GEN do.
It´s "functionality over looks", if I could describe it this way...
Cheers,
Spirit.
Then the ETA is not a bad option
It allows the same, in a different manner.
Sorry for asking questions which have been asked so many times, but now I feel more concerned, as I own my firsty Rolex ever :biglaugh:
It's also true that most threads did not bring me the answers I was looking for (yes, I used the SEARCH button)
And regarding the wrong hand stack, I believe it can't be changed, and even though, it would be useless as the movement anyway cannot mimic the gen. So in any case it's a tell as soon as you unscrew the crown.
Small tell if you want my feeling, as that rep rocks ! I never thought I'd buy a Rolex, but when I tried it while visiting Guru, I just needed one.
It has a gen feeling and once ar'ed, the dial is an eye catcher.
It allows the same, in a different manner.
Sorry for asking questions which have been asked so many times, but now I feel more concerned, as I own my firsty Rolex ever :biglaugh:
It's also true that most threads did not bring me the answers I was looking for (yes, I used the SEARCH button
)And regarding the wrong hand stack, I believe it can't be changed, and even though, it would be useless as the movement anyway cannot mimic the gen. So in any case it's a tell as soon as you unscrew the crown.
Small tell if you want my feeling, as that rep rocks ! I never thought I'd buy a Rolex, but when I tried it while visiting Guru, I just needed one.
It has a gen feeling and once ar'ed, the dial is an eye catcher.
Pix, the ICHS allows you to move the GMT hand freely. The CHS allows you to move the hour hand in one-hour increments, like the gen, but only forward (on the gen, you can also make it go backward). Also, the gen doesn't have quick date setting, you need to change it by moving the hour hand forward or backward.
CHS movements are no longer available from the factories to my knowledge. Just too many issues. I had an old one that I put in instead of the V3 ICHS movement.
Uwe's cyclop is fantastic when placed on an AR'd spot on an otherwise not AR'd crystal. Very gen-like in appearance. I love it. But yes, the magnification looks slightly bigger than the gen. Will post a comparison when I get the chance...
CHS movements are no longer available from the factories to my knowledge. Just too many issues. I had an old one that I put in instead of the V3 ICHS movement.
Uwe's cyclop is fantastic when placed on an AR'd spot on an otherwise not AR'd crystal. Very gen-like in appearance. I love it. But yes, the magnification looks slightly bigger than the gen. Will post a comparison when I get the chance...
So I must have checked Guru's watch not carefully enough. For some reason I had in mind that the GMT hand was moving in one hour increment, not the hour hand
For the quickset feature, it's somehow a must on a watch, I can't understand how Rolex missed that :thinking:
For the quickset feature, it's somehow a must on a watch, I can't understand how Rolex missed that :thinking:
So I must have checked Guru's watch not carefully enough. For some reason I had in mind that the GMT hand was moving in one hour increment, not the hour hand
Guru's has the incorrect stack, so the GMT hand moves freely and can be set quickly. While on the correct stack version (less common and a lot less reliable) the hour hand moves in hour increments.
Given that the hour hand moves in hour-increments it's actually quite fast and easy to do. I guess they had no option because turning the crown in position 1 controls the hour hand in both directions.