Today we tested all the popular SUBs for 904L steel

[Jayalvin777]

Because Factorys got angry? And you don't bite the hand that feeds you...

Could be the case but don't think so. If you frequently check Chinese rep websites, this metal tests are quite common since a couple of months.

 

[mari115]

exactly the same color, same brushing, same shine. There's no difference

This goes against what some people said in this or other threads, they said that the 904l is whiter while the 316l is more yellow.

Well. Seems like the steel used has been confirmed to be only something exploited in order to pump more money out of our wallets

 

[Yogibear]

I wonder why he went quite. Would be major blow for zzf sales if they brought out two full 316l watches back to back. I would be curious to see a zzf metal test, will continue searching tomorrow if I find something will post it.

I mean unless the one he tested was a ZZF v2 and he didn't know but I confirmed v3.

 

[Tete]

This goes against what some people said in this or other threads, they said that the 904l is whiter while the 316l is more yellow.

Well. Seems like the steel used has been confirmed to be only something exploited in order to pump more money out of our wallets

904 or 316 does not always influence the color. I have Noob v7, v6, GMT V2, V3 (all 316 and some are whiter and others more gray-yellow), ARF Dj41, Op39 (904 and they look different between them), ZZF V2 (it was sold), EWF Dj41 ( 316 and very light color and white). I don't think that rep factories have a QC of the color of steel, it depends on the batch and depends on the never exact mix of types of metals will come out the darkest color, yellow, silver, white ... I also have to point out that my ARF and EWF are much whiter or lighter than my previous Gen sub.

 

[GrandmasterChime]

I mean unless the one he tested was a ZZF v2 and he didn't know but I confirmed v3.

He tested a v2s there was no v3 out then. So logically the v3 has a 904 bracelet and a 316 case

 

[jcagara08]

so what was the conclusion for this thread?
anyone can provide the TLDR for all?

 

[mari115]

904 or 316 does not always influence the color. I have Noob v7, v6, GMT V2, V3 (all 316 and some are whiter and others more gray-yellow), ARF Dj41, Op39 (904 and they look different between them), ZZF V2 (it was sold), EWF Dj41 ( 316 and very light color and white). I don't think that rep factories have a QC of the color of steel, it depends on the batch and depends on the never exact mix of types of metals will come out the darkest color, yellow, silver, white ... I also have to point out that my ARF and EWF are much whiter or lighter than my previous Gen sub.

So it's totally incorrect to prefer 904l over 316l because the first one is "more gen like" since it's not always more "white" than the 316l, right?

 

[Jayalvin777]

So it's totally incorrect to prefer 904l over 316l because the first one is "more gen like" since it's not always more "white" than the 316l, right?

Exactly at least for me, as long as the factory not charging a premium for it, also if making one or two parts in 316 means better quality I would take it. As Tete said there are so many factors that come into play. what benefits vsf is that they produce a lot of things by themselves that's why their qc doesn't varies that much compare to other factories.

 

[ciaoman21]

i've got the VSF 116610LN, to be honnest, i see no difference...

 

[rolexppapfan]

Probably my last comment on this thread as it looks like this is a bucket that has a cracked bottom and it's useless trying to fill it up with water. I had to go to page 21 to find Puretimes last post ( 27.09.2020) on this thread and to be honest In my opinion as a TD it is very irresponsible to start a thread like this then say and come out with info that some factories use and others don't 904L but at the same time advertising on their web site, 904l watches when they clearly know that they are 316L, promise a full review and then disappear as nothing happened. Really disappointing to see a TD act like this. Thx God we have more TDs from which we can choose.

 

[GrandmasterChime]

Probably my last comment on this thread as it looks like this is a bucket that has a cracked bottom and it's useless trying to fill it up with water. I had to go to page 21 to find Puretimes last post ( 27.09.2020) on this thread and to be honest In my opinion as a TD it is very irresponsible to start a thread like this then say and come out with info that some factories use and others don't 904L but at the same time advertising on their web site, 904l watches when they clearly know that they are 316L, promise a full review and then disappear as nothing happened. Really disappointing to see a TD act like this. Thx God we have more TDs from which we can choose.

Very poor follow thru admittedly

 

[rolexppapfan]

Very poor follow thru admittedly

thx for your opinion.

 

[Cowboy45]

Probably my last comment on this thread as it looks like this is a bucket that has a cracked bottom and it's useless trying to fill it up with water. I had to go to page 21 to find Puretimes last post ( 27.09.2020) on this thread and to be honest In my opinion as a TD it is very irresponsible to start a thread like this then say and come out with info that some factories use and others don't 904L but at the same time advertising on their web site, 904l watches when they clearly know that they are 316L, promise a full review and then disappear as nothing happened. Really disappointing to see a TD act like this. Thx God we have more TDs from which we can choose.

Agree 100% i was actually really considering switching to him as my TD based on the forum posts and interactions. This was actually suoer good information and would have really helped us as consumers but to leave this one without following up has really put me off. Not cool.

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[NYC_MIA]

Puretime is old news. It’s as simple as that.


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[walla65]

we have to realize that the various TDs must maintain good relations with all the factories ... even if they may have an interest in pushing one more than another ... so when they realize they are creating problems ... they stop and disappear ....

 

[Jayalvin777]

we have to realize that the various TDs must maintain good relations with all the factories ... even if they may have an interest in pushing one more than another ... so when they realize they are creating problems ... theu stop
and disappear from the topic
..

I understand that but as I said earlier a lot of Chinese td's are writing about the steel factories use. Also jtime at least wrote on his website discontinued zzf 316L steel.

 

[walla65]

I understand that but as I said earlier a lot of Chinese td's are writing about the steel factories use. Also jtime at least wrote on his website discontinued zzf 316L steel.

of course ... I don't want to justify it ... on the contrary ... but they are sellers ... not associations for the protection of consumers .... and as we all know ... there are sellers and sellers ...and behaving in a certain way ... put their credibility on the line .....

 

[marco130]

This isn’t the first time I’ve seen Angus get some heat from the makers. I’m guessing this time he may have caught a bunch of it.
The disclosure of the steel situation was a tease for the review itself. I regret not being able to see the review, especially now in what I believe is one of the most competitive periods of producing the Submariner I’ve ever seen. I believe there are some great choices available right now.
Perhaps before these models are discontinued the review will see the light of day. The 126xxx’s are on the way! Can’t wait for V3

 

[Rippin6Gears]

Only 2 of them turn out to be using 904L entirely and one of them is using 316L but advertised as 904L and the rest are 316/904 hybrids

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So have you tested any of the GMF 904L watches?

 

[Esaelias]

i've got the VSF 116610LN, to be honnest, i see no difference...

oh man i bought the vsf thinking it is full 904l is that a hybrid?