ZZF New 116610LN Submariner 3135 V2 Releasing!

[tumad]

So you'd only give the ZZF a 6? ouch

No, I never said that.. lol It will have a score out of 100

 

[Astro55]

The big one is most certainly a fake

That’s what I thought but the poster said the Gen was on the left.

In these pics, if the Gen is really on the Left then the zzF looks like a waaay better watch on wrist..um?!?

The watch on the left looks like a fake tbh...bit like a Noob maybe??

 

[d3s19n]

First off I wanted to say thanks y’all for being cool and not trolling me too hard for my attempts at contributing. Like I said I try and add to convo based on info I’ve seen on forums. I did not make up the opinion that ZZF is smaller.. it is based on this post: ZZF Sub. 116610LN quick & short review
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/to...st.php?p=3117972&share_type=t&link_source=app

This new ZZF based on pics may everything We’ve been hoping for but the nature of this hobby has made me always skeptical and trying to find reasons to believe otherwise

gen crystal, bezel teeth replacement... movement upgrades and this thing is great!

 

[Duckber]

No, I never said that.. lol

Well your summary seemed very critical and I counted what seemed like minuses so I went by what I thought you'd give it. So again, if you can, what would you grade it? I'm still lost.

 

[lfarcos]

Here are some photos of my upcoming article. Unfortunately I cannot load photos directly into posts so description is above the link.
In day to day life, these differences are practically not noticeable, so getting hung up about them or worrying about them is moot. Only someone that owns a gen, and knows what to look for will distinguish one from the other if no reference is available.



Although reps are pretty close by eye as I have found, it's all in the details. Unfortunately I do not have a macro lens, so this serves as something someone might pickup with good eyesight or a magnifying glass in everyday situations.

Clasp crown & bracelet screws
Although with the naked eye, very difficult to really see any difference. Once under a loope the differences are quite obvious. The gen is crisp, the lower oval is more oval. The inside of each crown arm is smooth compared to the rep. The crown balls are rounder. Rep bracelet screws are not as refined as gen.
https://ibb.co/Mh4JF1n

Case and bezel:
Polishing on the gen is immaculate. Not so much on the rep
Bezel teeth on gen are rounded and slightly smaller, rep are rougher. Also gen teeth are further from the edge of the insert than rep. Rep teeth are cut deeper.
Lug radius on gen is more even. Rep seems to be a bit random although very minor.
https://ibb.co/8DxgC8K

SEL & Bezel platinum inserts:
Gen numbers on bezel insert are lighter in color, and a fraction wider. Under high magnification, the actual platinum layer is also smoother. The black glossy color of the bezel insert under any light is virtually indistinguishable.
SEL on rep is pretty good, however on the gen it is rounded off more towards the end leading to the first link where as the rep seems to flatten out.
Also of note in this pic is the inside radius of the Crown guard on the case. On gen it is round and forms part of a circle, whereas the rep is tapered towards the crown itself.
Another never discussed point on the bracelet is that the gen is 0.2mm thicker and just feels beefier, thus the watch overall is 10g heavier with the same amount of links attached.
https://ibb.co/MRYYMXC

Rehaut Font:
As discussed many times before, the Serial number font is way off on a rep. The ROLEX font is closer but still off. Take a note of the 'O'. gen is elongated, rep is round. The laser engraving on rehaut is off compared to gen which looks sandblasted rather than laser etched and slightly rough. Yes, on gen it used to be laser etched, but on previous or other models. On the Sub it is very smooth.
https://ibb.co/hYwSWpM

Thank you mate for your initial review.

I think your rep is ZZF v2?

Looking forward to seeing your comparative with the no-date v2 next week! I am undecided whether to order 116610 or 114060...

Thanks in advance.

 

[tumad]

Thank you mate for your initial review.

I think your rep is ZZF v2?

Looking forward to seeing your comparative with the no-date v2 next week! I am undecided whether to order 116610 or 114060...

Thanks in advance.

Mine currently is a V1, so the pics are by no means final. Will do the full reivewi soon however I cannot post pictures on this forum so it will all be links unfortunately.

 

[tumad]

Well your summary seemed very critical and I counted what seemed like minuses so I went by what I thought you'd give it. So again, if you can, what would you grade it? I'm still lost.

Without having the actual V2 in hand, I can only currently go by the one I held briefly or my V1. Right now, without the V2 in hand I can only hazard a guess at around 90/100. In the review it will only loose 1 point out of 10 for that section.
E.G. Bracelet 8/10
SEL -1
Fit and finish overall -1
Clasp crown logo - negligible hence no points deducted
etc etc
Hope this clears things up.

 

[Nubee333]

Just got my qc in, I've never seen a watch on YouTube or from the several qc before be this accurate on the beat machine.

At first I thought cyclops was little off but the top had a little obtuse angle too to balance it out? I dunno what u guys think?

https://imgshare.io/image/h0xVn

https://imgshare.io/image/h09M4

https://imgshare.io/image/h0mYY

https://imgshare.io/image/h0jzZ

 

[botsyboy]

I can’t be bothered replying all these pointlesss posts from guys who don’t even have the bloody watch! But I will say I had the first V1 116610 and looks like the first V2 and they are not comparable. The V2 has been completely re-engineered and improved in every way.
The 114060 cannot be compared really as the case is not quite the same as the cg’s are worse because of lower 2836 crown height etc.


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[garnier]

Thank you mate for your initial review.

I think your rep is ZZF v2?

Looking forward to seeing your comparative with the no-date v2 next week! I am undecided whether to order 116610 or 114060...

Thanks in advance.

Same dilema for me

 

[huntoon3]

Just got my qc in, I've never seen a watch on YouTube or from the several qc before be this accurate on the beat machine.

At first I thought cyclops was little off but the top had a little obtuse angle too to balance it out? I dunno what u guys think?

https://imgshare.io/image/h0xVn

https://imgshare.io/image/h09M4

https://imgshare.io/image/h0mYY

https://imgshare.io/image/h0jzZ

These pics look amazing!!! Good watch!!

 

[Amguy1]

Accepted today. Everything looks great now

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[Cadows]

Accepted today. Everything looks great now

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Rehaut not aligned

 

[mari115]

Rehaut not aligned

it's not a tell

 

[Fervid]

Accepted today. Everything looks great now

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Did you decline the first one?

 

[up2wind]

Is it necessary to change the insert to spongebob insert?

 

[stufuse]

Accepted today. Everything looks great now

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Why does it have a 2836 sticker on it ????

Decorated 2836 is the v1

My 114060 has a 2836 inside, yours Is ment to be 3135 now


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[botsyboy]

Why does it have a 2836 sticker on it ????

Decorated 2836 is the v1

My 114060 has a 2836 inside, yours Is ment to be 3135 now


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Because both versions are available buddy.


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[Amguy1]

Did you decline the first one?

No this is the first one with better pics


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[stufuse]

Because both versions are available buddy.


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Ahh I see, I thought v2 was only 3135


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