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BP Released whole line of DG3804 CHS GMTs - cheap!

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I saw one of these a couple months back but now the line has expanded quite a bit. A good place to view them all is linked below. Keep in mind Trusty is not a TD on RWI, so send a link of the watch you want to an RWI TD.

http://www.trustytime01.cc/index.ph...cription=1&keyword=BP+Asia+2813+CHS&x=31&y=16

There is a 1675, a 16710, 2 Explorers, and just about every combo of 6 digit GMT.

These are powered by a GMT variant of the DG2813, the DG3804, so they will be low beat but in all honesty I don't visually see a huge difference between 6 and 8 beats a second (must be getting old). YMMV

The hand stack is correct, however the GMT hand hole surround remains large so you can't see the hour hand hole surround beneath it. The date changes by jumping the hour hand, just like the ETA 2824 CHS. Someone figured out how to mod this movement similar to the one we all know and love/hate. It will be interesting to see how these movements hold up and whether or not they are just another different brand of timebomb.

The rest of the watch looks typical BP, decent enough quality. Good enough to merit consideration, usually not quite as good as Noob, ARF, or VRF with a few standout exceptions. Some of the inserts look like new offerings, definitely different from recent BP ETA GMTs.

With these cheaper movements, the price points are very attractive, around $278, even the TT, FG, RG. The TT RG model shown in its video even had covered SEL sides. I am planning on grabbing one of these soon mainly to check out the movement but also because you can never have enough GMTs!
 

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Is there any big and visible difference wether its 316 or 704 steel? I have the 704 noob but nothing with 316 to compare.

Rehaut alignement seem a bit off on GMTs though otherwise they look good.
 

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Is there any big and visible difference wether its 316 or 704 steel? I have the 704 noob but nothing with 316 to compare.

Rehaut alignement seem a bit off on GMTs though otherwise they look good.

I can't tell any difference between 316 and 904. I think it's a big marketing gimmick to justify higher prices. It's easy to find a list of the material composition of each one and they differ only slightly. Real 904 has copper added and increased nickel and molybdenum for acid and corrosion resistance in chloride environments. 316 was fine for pro divers for decades, I believe even Rolex did it as a gimmick to set themselves apart, and be a "cut above".

https://www.google.com/amp/s/forums....2.html%3famp=1

I'd put money on it that whatever the Chinese make 904 out of doesn't cost them a penny more than when they make 316. And that feature alone has resulted in $100 price hikes.
 
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Thanks for this. Great alternative and I've always like BP's offerings.
 
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Thanks! Looking forward to a full review (hint hint LOL)
I had to look this up though ...

FG = full gold TT = two tone, RG = Rose gold ...
 
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Looking forward to this review. Going back to lower decent prices would be a relief.

If these BPs are well made enough, could they be a good start to mod upgrades (or even franken maybe) ?

In my case I'm thinking about a GMT Master II black ceramic insert, to mod with USD plating as a start for example.

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Another example :

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Good sel shape and recess
 
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The BP Batman insert insert looks good. Fonts look right and no speed bump or white line at 6 & 18. Priced right too.
 
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I’ve always liked BP. The BPSD alone solidifies them as heavy hitter.

Im curious if the 16710 is gen construction in any way. Seriously doubt it.
 

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BP sometimes can be really good. The 16600 3135 case for ex was excellent (apart from cgs). I love just ordered myself a bp GMT. It's been 3 weeks though and still no qc.

https://www.ts-station.cn/mobile/goods.php?ProId=26217

Top, left = bp
Bottom, right = gmf

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Yes looks good bro. Insert is much improved since their initial examples. Pretty sure I'm going to try 1 or 2 of the TT / FG 3804s after the Chinese holiday is over (Oct 7).
 
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The TT RG model shown in its video even had covered SEL sides. I am planning on grabbing one of these soon mainly to check out the movement but also because you can never have enough GMTs!


Be careful with that. If possible, please check and let us know.

I was about to buy a BP Datejust from that website, because in the pics and in the video you can clearly see covered sides on the middle links. I asked trustytime, and they said that the sides are not covered. So they are clearly posting media that do not correspond to the real deal.

https://www.trustytime01.cc/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_294&products_id=19915 <- At leat they were honest and said that the sides are not covered
 
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another important thing. they are using the same pictures and videos for models with different movements (all from BP). I've seen other websites doing that with a submariner. The thing is, when you ask for the sub with the cheap movement, they use a different date wheel, a really crappy one. Another thing to ask for
 

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Yep, always gotta watch for the old bait and switch! The 2836 ICHS BP TT RGs have covered SEL sides while the GMF same model at $100 more does not. Trusty has several ppl working for him, not all are right about stuff like this! Plus samples from factories change like the weather.

These 3804 GMTs are unique though, the hand stack and GMT hand hole surround is on no other rep so these can't be substitute pics. Thanks though.
 

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Anyone have a sense how these would stack up quality wise with Narika’s Regmariner or GMT? Significantly better?