Quick Review of ZZF New 114060 No Date Submariner VS Gen

[jtimewatch]

Hi guys,


After a while 116610LN Submariner, ZZF is now ready to release their new 114060 No Date Submariner finally.

Luckily we had the sample back a few days ago and had prepared a quick review about it vs the genuine.

As I would like to keep the objective attitude on this review, so I'd prefer to speak less words this time myself and let the pictures talks more.

Some relevant posts are as below for some new members as references:
https://forum.replica-watch.info/fo...nd-comparison-vs-gen-arf-noob-and-nail-part-i
https://forum.replica-watch.info/fo...d-comparison-vs-gen-arf-noob-and-nail-part-ii
https://forum.replica-watch.info/fo...n-factory-v2-insert-for-rolex-116610-ln-vs-v1


OK, let's go down to check some pictures.

General Front View

Side View

Case Back

Bracelet

One thing shall be mentioned here is this ZZF no date sub is the only one with 904L steel bracelet 114060 on the market at the moment.

Crown Guard

Insert Engraving and Pearl

As many people already know that this insert is from Clean Factory with real platinum plating, it is really nice from what we can see from the pictures as well as I see it personally in my hands.

Bezel Teeth

Same vertical brushed in the teeth, but it seems that the ZZF teeth is a little bit wider than the genuine.

Dial Printing

The printing above 6 marker has different font between the first line "SUBMARINER" and the rest 3 lines. ZZF made it good at this spot.

Markers on Dial

ZZF markers have the round edges close to the genuine, same as the 116610LN we have seen before.

Hand Stack, Hour hand and Minute Hand

Dial Edge

ZZF makes the dial edges rounded close as genuine as well.

Rehaut Engraving

It is kinda like the 116610LN version, the rehaut on ZZF sub is a weak point of this rep. But from we can see on this sample, the alignment of the engraving seems better than 116610LN version now.

ZZ3130 Clone Movement

From the factory info, their new No Date Submariner is using a custom made 3130 clone movement.
And we can see from the picture, this movement might be the only clone 3130 movement using blue parachrom balance spring.
Hour and minute hands are adjusted on the first crown gear same as genuine one.



Overall, I think ZZF No Date sub would be a good choice on this model myself, after I have seen and felt it personally.
But like what I always said in other threads, this is only my opinion, everyone will be always be welcomed to share different thoughts and opinions here.

OK, this will be the end of this quick review now.
See you guys around and cheers!


All the best
Li

Jtime Watch

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Wow, that insert is looking great! Markers seem to be very nice too. Biggest flaw should be the hands and rehaut engravings... Thanks for this review, still dont know which maker to buy

 

[Itto]

Shut up and take my money.

 

[shortlegs]

Externally, seems like its just the crown guards, hands and rehaut. Any idea if the dial has the same depressions around the indices as the submariner date? If it solves the dial problem, then it's a mighty fine looking rep.

Internally I hope the A3130 movement will prove to be reliable.

Great to see another great looking rep from ZZF!

 

[ocwatch80]

Thanks for such a great comparison!

 

[Smpfan]

Crown position too low. That’s the reason for the incorrect shape of the CGs.


Greets Andi

 

[shortlegs]

Crown position too low. That’s the reason for the incorrect shape of the CGs.


Greets Andi

But if it has the clone 3130 movement, shouldn't the crown position be the same? From the photo it does look similar.

I thought the crown guards look incorrect not because of the crown position, but how the outsides are more straight instead of sloped like the gen.

 

[Mav2000]

Been waiting for a nice 114060. Thanks for the review

 

[botsyboy]

But if it has the clone 3130 movement, shouldn't the crown position be the same? From the photo it does look similar.

I thought the crown guards look incorrect not because of the crown position, but how the outsides are more straight instead of sloped like the gen.

It’s a 2836 with decoration hence the low position. A shame!


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[gianttg]

very nice 114060 indeed!!!

 

[guru]

when will it be available?


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[hadamokel]

Finally another 114060 choice

 

[Snare502]

Great picture comparison, thanks Li

 

[Cordsen]

Is it possible to insert the ZZF dial into the JF v2 SH3130? As I can see the markers looks great and round.

 

[Stuvetjee]

This insert looks so good! Dial print is insane too

 

[VaderTime]

Can’t Wait to see their LV dial. Thanks Li for the review!

 

[Overmerc]

Thanks ! Nice review! The most important question is how reliable is this caliber?

 

[FiRep]

Wow, this looks very promosing indeed! Any idea when it will be available?

 

[thinwhiteduke]

Thanks for your review, Li.
Credit where credit is due:
The good: Amazing update of the Clean bezel insert. For one, it no longer is a triangle with a FLAT top, he he. The markers are awesome, too. The dial and markers are good, too.
Downside would be the incorrect TOO SHARP bezel teeth just like the LN version. The scallops are too wide, thus teeth are sharper. Reminds me of ARF's SD43. Same issue.
And Andi is correct. Wrong crown guards cuz the crown sits too low, and as stated above, this is because the movement is just a decorated 2836.
Congratulations for the updates, Li!

 

[Mav2000]

If its a decorated 2836, the movement should be quite reliable?