Hi guys,
As I have promised last week, I have made a HUMBLE comparison between my Patek Philippe Nautilus 5711 Blue and the PPF 5711 white.
My idea was NOT to make such a comparison full of macro pictures, but instead a more focused one in certain characteristics in order to give you a impression closer to what it is in real life. So, you guys please excuse this newbie here….
Nevertheless, for those that love those macro pictures comparison, I’d recommend Ryan’s as follows:
https://www.intime04.co/patek-philip...ppf-maker.html
Some of you guys have said that those measurements taken by Ryan were not to be trusted, that was impossible to achieve such thickness using the Myota 9015 and so on. So, keep going to see if it is or not reliable.
Again, IMHO, we should have a comparison more focused to give us the impression in real life of side by side pieces, genuine one and PPF’s. Being of different colours it was not so straightforward , though. Then, I have tried to focus on the main characteristics that in general makes you feel if the replica was good, or otherwise.
Each one of us has a reason to buy a replica, and in my case, it’s easy to understand why. Wearing the genuine is a pleasure but is quite worrisome – banging it, scratching it or worse…. Well, it’s quite impossible for me to replace it should a very bad thing happen. PO Lines in Patek AD are 10 years plus, and grey's is quite over the reasonable for me. The thing also is having a bad replica was totally off for me.
Then, I was quite surprised with PPF’s white and bought it right away. Well, henceforth, let me know if PPF’s is good enough or not, done?
Let the pictures talk by themselves, now
Next pic shows a difference in size - but it's in fact caused by PPF's bracelet being less flexible and therefore watch is closer to camera. Bracelet is not bad, but still a long shot to the genuine ( which is more than expected)
It's important to get the watches leveled in order to avoid such distortion. Excuse the crude way I performed so.
Those last three pics , you might see that the bracelets are quite similar, but the first link on gen is ever so slightly smaller.
See now the impression of bezel difference
Now, bezels and crowns
What about movements now
Such a beautiful work from Patek
And, yes...I know, the so famous too reddish fake jewels ... but not too bad...
It's also more evident a difference in colour of rotor, being the PPF's more brassy. Well, not too unexpected , though
Now, if you could keep going so far, the infamous measurements. I used a caliper that was thermally stable ( without fluctuations of zero) . I was quite surprised about thickness
Note that I tried to get measurement at same spot on both watches, same pressure as well.
It's quite understandable that people would take the Patek website info of 8.3mm as the rule, but do not forget that I'm using double decimal digit caliper, and there's normal tolerances as well. As the caliper is the same, it's NOT FAR OFF to affirm that PPF can be only a tenth of millimeter thicker than the genuine -- which is amazing in my book.
Even though, it's possible to notice a small difference when you look at both side by side. It's nevertheless impossible to see such a difference on the wrist, IMO.
As easily noted, though, the crown protrudes a bit more than on gen. I tried to measure it as best as I could. I'll leave to you to check which is which ...
Although the difference is minimal on the width, the length of PPF is notable longer. It's less than a tenth of millimeter but you can see it....
But that small difference does not explain why the crown on PPF protrudes much more than on the genuine. So, I guess you can see that the indentation on the case is shallower on PPF and , therefore, the crown does not go down the way it should. Also, the shiny part on which the crown sits seems deeper on gen too.
BTW, if you were curious to know what I think about PPF's , I'd say that I don't see too much the bezel difference, specially if I'm wearing it; that I don't see much of difference on bracelet, although I had to file the sharp edges a bit; that the date is skinny but fills all window and it's centralized - which are the most important things to me; but the longer crown is, FOR SURE, the thing that annoys me a bit. Not offensive to the eye, though....
IMHO, the best thing is you to see and decide by yourself, so some pics were taken to give you this impression of how good, or bad, this piece is.
So, I hope you have enjoyed this, sorry for such long text.
I'd love to hear your opinions -- BUT PLEASE ---- DO NOT QUOTE ALL PICS when you answer to it .......... . It's a PITA when all pics are quoted , with no reason for that.... :lolcina:
Cheers
As I have promised last week, I have made a HUMBLE comparison between my Patek Philippe Nautilus 5711 Blue and the PPF 5711 white.
My idea was NOT to make such a comparison full of macro pictures, but instead a more focused one in certain characteristics in order to give you a impression closer to what it is in real life. So, you guys please excuse this newbie here….
Nevertheless, for those that love those macro pictures comparison, I’d recommend Ryan’s as follows:
https://www.intime04.co/patek-philip...ppf-maker.html
Some of you guys have said that those measurements taken by Ryan were not to be trusted, that was impossible to achieve such thickness using the Myota 9015 and so on. So, keep going to see if it is or not reliable.
Again, IMHO, we should have a comparison more focused to give us the impression in real life of side by side pieces, genuine one and PPF’s. Being of different colours it was not so straightforward , though. Then, I have tried to focus on the main characteristics that in general makes you feel if the replica was good, or otherwise.
Each one of us has a reason to buy a replica, and in my case, it’s easy to understand why. Wearing the genuine is a pleasure but is quite worrisome – banging it, scratching it or worse…. Well, it’s quite impossible for me to replace it should a very bad thing happen. PO Lines in Patek AD are 10 years plus, and grey's is quite over the reasonable for me. The thing also is having a bad replica was totally off for me.
Then, I was quite surprised with PPF’s white and bought it right away. Well, henceforth, let me know if PPF’s is good enough or not, done?
Let the pictures talk by themselves, now
Next pic shows a difference in size - but it's in fact caused by PPF's bracelet being less flexible and therefore watch is closer to camera. Bracelet is not bad, but still a long shot to the genuine ( which is more than expected)
It's important to get the watches leveled in order to avoid such distortion. Excuse the crude way I performed so.
Those last three pics , you might see that the bracelets are quite similar, but the first link on gen is ever so slightly smaller.
See now the impression of bezel difference
Now, bezels and crowns
What about movements now
Such a beautiful work from Patek
And, yes...I know, the so famous too reddish fake jewels ... but not too bad...
It's also more evident a difference in colour of rotor, being the PPF's more brassy. Well, not too unexpected , though
Now, if you could keep going so far, the infamous measurements. I used a caliper that was thermally stable ( without fluctuations of zero) . I was quite surprised about thickness
Note that I tried to get measurement at same spot on both watches, same pressure as well.
It's quite understandable that people would take the Patek website info of 8.3mm as the rule, but do not forget that I'm using double decimal digit caliper, and there's normal tolerances as well. As the caliper is the same, it's NOT FAR OFF to affirm that PPF can be only a tenth of millimeter thicker than the genuine -- which is amazing in my book.
Even though, it's possible to notice a small difference when you look at both side by side. It's nevertheless impossible to see such a difference on the wrist, IMO.
As easily noted, though, the crown protrudes a bit more than on gen. I tried to measure it as best as I could. I'll leave to you to check which is which ...
Although the difference is minimal on the width, the length of PPF is notable longer. It's less than a tenth of millimeter but you can see it....
But that small difference does not explain why the crown on PPF protrudes much more than on the genuine. So, I guess you can see that the indentation on the case is shallower on PPF and , therefore, the crown does not go down the way it should. Also, the shiny part on which the crown sits seems deeper on gen too.
BTW, if you were curious to know what I think about PPF's , I'd say that I don't see too much the bezel difference, specially if I'm wearing it; that I don't see much of difference on bracelet, although I had to file the sharp edges a bit; that the date is skinny but fills all window and it's centralized - which are the most important things to me; but the longer crown is, FOR SURE, the thing that annoys me a bit. Not offensive to the eye, though....
IMHO, the best thing is you to see and decide by yourself, so some pics were taken to give you this impression of how good, or bad, this piece is.
So, I hope you have enjoyed this, sorry for such long text.
I'd love to hear your opinions -- BUT PLEASE ---- DO NOT QUOTE ALL PICS when you answer to it ..........
. It's a PITA when all pics are quoted , with no reason for that.... :lolcina:Cheers
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