Today I got my brand new ZF PAM449 from sead
It's my first Rad and I really like it, but the main reason why I have bought this watch is just because of the movement.
The p.3000 clone V4
There is not much info about that movement and I was really interested how good that clone is. So I bought the 449.
My first impression....NICE. The movement looks really clean and well finished.
My plan was to break down and service the movement.
So first remove the movement from the case, by the way the 449 is a front loader, remove the hands and the dial and here it is
The naked p.3000 clone
There are no paperwork or instructions about that clone movement and the whole work is trying and learning by doing. And this is where the horror begins. Because if you just break a part, a pinion, a spigot or lose a part is the movement gone. And there are NO spare parts at the market.
So take a deep breath and let's go.
First step is to remove the balance
And than the mainspring bridge
Now we see the two mainsprings, connected with a little wheel
Here is the bridge
The next step is removing the train wheel bridge. And here is the first surprise, the V4 is just a V4 because of a deco plate
Underneath the deco is the real bridge and under that bridge is the wheel train
When i remove that bridge I was thinking by myself "oh oh" but let's talk about that a bit later.
Here is the main plate without the gears
This side it's done, so turn around the movement and go ahead with the other side.
Ok, after I have removed all parts from the main plate I start to clean them. But I must say all parts are already clean and nice.
That was the easiest part....now comes the harder part. Bring all parts back together.
I start with the keyless.
The keyless is close to the 6497 movement, but just close and not the same.
Next step is the minute and hour wheel. The wheels are fixed with a kind of clip. that is unconventional but I like it
The upside is assembled and we go on with the backside, or the dark side how I call that side from now.
To place the wheels is easy and no problem
But now the real horror begins....setting the wheel train bridge.
Setting this bridge is the hardest i have ever done at a watch movement. You work in the dark, you don't see the jewels, and the wheels are very wobbly. And don't forget, if you break a wheel or a pin is the movement gone. You must set four wheels and the pinion for the minute wheel and all five parts under one and the same bridge.
This is no joke, it took me 4h to set that bridge back in place!
That was really sick.
But it was also a great feeling when I had managed that
Just look at that pic....the dark area underneath the bridge is the place where you have to work....SICK
OK, if you have done that is the rest easygoing.
Set the mains springs back in place
Install the bridge and the V4 deco plate
The pallet fork and the balance
BTW: it's very easy to regulate the p.3000 clone.
There is another deco plate at the balance bridge and under that deco is a normal lever to regulate the balance.
So it's the same procedure as at any other movement.
And the movement works great after the service
And that's it.
At the end I must say, the p.3000 clone movement is amazing. It's a complete independently movement and very well made. The movement was clean but a bit dry. The clone is serviceable, but I would not do it again because of the train wheel bridge.
So don't sent me your p.3000 clones, I don't take them....hehe
I hope you have enjoyed my trip to the Chinese movement hell and back.
Thanks for reading.
P.s. a pic from the work desk.
EDIT: power reserve is exactly 169h and 48min.
Not bad for a Chinese clone movement.
Especially since the gen Panerai p.3000 movement has a PR of 72h, with nearly the same movement construction.
Sent from my iPad Air 2
It's my first Rad and I really like it, but the main reason why I have bought this watch is just because of the movement.
The p.3000 clone V4
There is not much info about that movement and I was really interested how good that clone is. So I bought the 449.
My first impression....NICE. The movement looks really clean and well finished.
My plan was to break down and service the movement.
So first remove the movement from the case, by the way the 449 is a front loader, remove the hands and the dial and here it is
The naked p.3000 clone
There are no paperwork or instructions about that clone movement and the whole work is trying and learning by doing. And this is where the horror begins. Because if you just break a part, a pinion, a spigot or lose a part is the movement gone. And there are NO spare parts at the market.
So take a deep breath and let's go.
First step is to remove the balance
And than the mainspring bridge
Now we see the two mainsprings, connected with a little wheel
Here is the bridge
The next step is removing the train wheel bridge. And here is the first surprise, the V4 is just a V4 because of a deco plate
Underneath the deco is the real bridge and under that bridge is the wheel train
When i remove that bridge I was thinking by myself "oh oh" but let's talk about that a bit later.
Here is the main plate without the gears
This side it's done, so turn around the movement and go ahead with the other side.
Ok, after I have removed all parts from the main plate I start to clean them. But I must say all parts are already clean and nice.
That was the easiest part....now comes the harder part. Bring all parts back together.
I start with the keyless.
The keyless is close to the 6497 movement, but just close and not the same.
Next step is the minute and hour wheel. The wheels are fixed with a kind of clip. that is unconventional but I like it
The upside is assembled and we go on with the backside, or the dark side how I call that side from now.
To place the wheels is easy and no problem
But now the real horror begins....setting the wheel train bridge.
Setting this bridge is the hardest i have ever done at a watch movement. You work in the dark, you don't see the jewels, and the wheels are very wobbly. And don't forget, if you break a wheel or a pin is the movement gone. You must set four wheels and the pinion for the minute wheel and all five parts under one and the same bridge.
This is no joke, it took me 4h to set that bridge back in place!
That was really sick.
But it was also a great feeling when I had managed that
Just look at that pic....the dark area underneath the bridge is the place where you have to work....SICK
OK, if you have done that is the rest easygoing.
Set the mains springs back in place
Install the bridge and the V4 deco plate
The pallet fork and the balance
BTW: it's very easy to regulate the p.3000 clone.
There is another deco plate at the balance bridge and under that deco is a normal lever to regulate the balance.
So it's the same procedure as at any other movement.
And the movement works great after the service
And that's it.
At the end I must say, the p.3000 clone movement is amazing. It's a complete independently movement and very well made. The movement was clean but a bit dry. The clone is serviceable, but I would not do it again because of the train wheel bridge.
So don't sent me your p.3000 clones, I don't take them....hehe
I hope you have enjoyed my trip to the Chinese movement hell and back.
Thanks for reading.
P.s. a pic from the work desk.
EDIT: power reserve is exactly 169h and 48min.
Not bad for a Chinese clone movement.
Especially since the gen Panerai p.3000 movement has a PR of 72h, with nearly the same movement construction.
Sent from my iPad Air 2
