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PAM 111 V3 Y-incabloc mod vs non mod

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Hello citizen of RWI,
I would like to ask your guys opinion for the PAM 111 v3 Y-incabloc. Beside the shape or cosmetic of the incabloc, are there any other differences between the two? And is the $100 worth it?
Thanks.
 

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Hello citizen of RWI,
I would like to ask your guys opinion for the PAM 111 v3 Y-incabloc. Beside the shape or cosmetic of the incabloc, are there any other differences between the two? And is the $100 worth it?
Thanks.

The watch functions the same way with or without the Y mod. The Y mod makes it look more gen.
 

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I assume you are talking about a mod of Incabloc swapping it for a gen Incabloc with gen lyre spring. Because I don’t like cosmetic mod of Incabloc (of course, this mod doesn't affect at all the working of the watch)

I will say my opinion
People who are able to tell Incabloc mod, will be able to see other flaws.
Then they will tell it is a rep even with Incabloc mod

You would need a complete mod, with gen Incabloc, cosmetical Swan Neck spring Mod, swapping the short micrometric screw for correct length, polishing edges of Wheels (Rachet and Crown), swapping screws wheels for gen ones, brushing gear train, polishing edges of bridges, changing the crown for a H maker or another “slim†crown like a KW…

Even with above mentioned mods, a replica trained eye person, with the watch in his hand and mainly with a lens, could tell the rep in some seconds.
- Swan Neck spring shape and fixations (even modified)
- OFFICINE PANERAI inscription on bridges
- CDG pattern on bridges
- Micrometric Screw without regulation holes (if it is no gen)
- CG Lever shape (arm lever shape, lever tip and roller support)
- Bevelled on crystal
- Lugs shape and placement and contours joining the case
- Finish between lugs
- Sharp Cutouts on Sandwich dial
….

Therefore IMO, complete Mod or no Mod

ALE
 

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I assume you are talking about a mod of Incabloc swapping it for a gen Incabloc with gen lyre spring. Because I don’t like cosmetic mod of Incabloc (of course, this mod doesn't affect at all the working of the watch)

I will say my opinion
People who are able to tell Incabloc mod, will be able to see other flaws.
Then they will tell it is a rep even with Incabloc mod

You would need a complete mod, with gen Incabloc, cosmetical Swan Neck spring Mod, swapping the short micrometric screw for correct length, polishing edges of Wheels (Rachet and Crown), swapping screws wheels for gen ones, brushing gear train, polishing edges of bridges, changing the crown for a H maker or another “slim†crown like a KW…

Even with above mentioned mods, a replica trained eye person, with the watch in his hand and mainly with a lens, could tell the rep in some seconds.
- Swan Neck spring shape and fixations (even modified)
- OFFICINE PANERAI inscription on bridges
- CDG pattern on bridges
- Micrometric Screw without regulation holes (if it is no gen)
- CG Lever shape (arm lever shape, lever tip and roller support)
- Bevelled on crystal
- Lugs shape and placement and contours joining the case
- Finish between lugs
- Sharp Cutouts on Sandwich dial
….

Therefore IMO, complete Mod or no Mod

ALE

that's true. I got an un-modded one sometime back, then decided to get a completely modded one. Not just because it looks more 'gen' but everything was done really nicely (including cleaning, oiling, regulation to +/- 2) and I would say I'm pleased with it.

I can't remember if I got a gen Y-incabloc tho but it was done by marlin...
 

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I would spend that money on service and lubrication instead...make sure it stays a good working watch
and protect your investment.
And who's looking at your incabloc, anyway? :)
 

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I'd go for an 005 if I here you for the closed case back. If you must have a 111 do t mod the incablock IMO. Not worth the money
 
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The incabloc is only one of many tells as everyone else mentioned. It's all or nothing when modding an open case back pam.
 

silentshadow718

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Send it to Marlin for full modding. Otherwise incablock is not worth it. If someone is looking at Y-incablock, they will spot other tells as well.

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