ZF factory....not impressed at all.......

[rolexwatchfan]

So wich factory is making the Bronzo?

So, the upcoming QC process it seems to become a pain in the ass for us and the TD's alike. I need that Bronzo so bad...

 

[sanankid]

I like the bronzo but we will see...

 

[peterpl]

I will only buy the bronzo if the bezel is nice and tight and crisp. Otherwise its junk and feels cheap.

 

[ALE7575]

I will only buy the bronzo if the bezel is nice and tight and crisp. Otherwise its junk and feels cheap.

Seeing the bezel knurling of ZFac PAM 389 I doubt ZFac PAM 382 Bronzo gets the gen quality

Below some gen pics just OTB:

ALE

 

[Kleen]

Hmmmmn - tough act to follow....

 

[peterpl]

Hi ALE,

Agree but its not just about how it looks but also the FEEL and operation of the bezel assembly itself. If it looks good but feels like a cheap toy to operate with it being clattering and tinny and loose than that's even worse. Anyone who even touched it would know its junk.

My very good friend who knows nothing about reps by the way played with my Noob Sub-C and Skyland bezels and immediately he said these are junk watches. The bezel feel and play are nothing at all like gen even if the construction is 1 to 1 (which I doubt) it just feels cheap and nasty. Now I just try avoid all watches with rotating bezels.

 

[TESLA760]

How much perfection is reasonable to ask for , from a watch that's a miniscule fraction of the GEN price ? Please let me know.

 

[s3g0y]

I think somewhere between 78% and 93% of perfection is reasonable to demand

 

[peterpl]

I think Bezel play is a reasonable ask for it to operate and feel sturdy. Not asking for a Tourbillion/Minute repeater function here. Compared to other complexities involved with watches things like loose bezels/misaligned numbers and crooked dials/symbols are not acceptable for me.

Functionality/movement wise I understand that's impossible for the price we pay and I don't expect the reliability nor the same functionality.

 

[ALE7575]

Hi ALE,

Agree but its not just about how it looks but also the FEEL and operation of the bezel assembly itself. If it looks good but feels like a cheap toy to operate with it being clattering and tinny and loose than that's even worse. Anyone who even touched it would know its junk.

My very good friend who knows nothing about reps by the way played with my Noob Sub-C and Skyland bezels and immediately he said these are junk watches. The bezel feel and play are nothing at all like gen even if the construction is 1 to 1 (which I doubt) it just feels cheap and nasty. Now I just try avoid all watches with rotating bezels.

I think Bezel play is a reasonable ask for it to operate and feel sturdy. Not asking for a Tourbillion/Minute repeater function here. Compared to other complexities involved with watches things like loose bezels/misaligned numbers and crooked dials/symbols are not acceptable for me.

Functionality/movement wise I understand that's impossible for the price we pay and I don't expect the reliability nor the same functionality.

Yes, this is another important subject
And I think it is not only a matter of price but a matter or care for design and details
We can ask for that perfectly, without a big increase of prices

ALE

 

[oracle202]

NCChef knows his stuff. He has regularly dissected PAMs for super-reps and I would have to say I agree with him. ZF factory is parading as KW quality but it's just not even close yet. And we all know customer service-wise Kuvarsit is hard to beat already.