ZF factory bad quality control? QC concerns inside

[anon0104]

Maybe it helps... wasn't quite sure.

Thank you for your help. At least some replies here are serious. I have continued my research on your version and made a gif to accentuate the flaw: https://gyazo.com/c4d966542435aa0d39fa10cb962b5d24

The gif honestly speaks for itself - you can clearly see the number 11 is straight (going in the same direction as the blue lines) whereas the number 10 is crooked (there is space inbetween the blue line and the 10, the yellow represents the empty space which should have been covered by the number 1).

Come on guys, surely we aren't paying close to $400 to wear watches with flaws that can be seen from miles away?

Excellent. Look at the horizontal and vertical lines as they cross the center pinion. This is the best example of the angular artifact effect caused by the angle of the camera. You have both depth and elevation artifacts. In short, this watch is perfect. Accept and enjoy.

This definitely makes sense based on the last picture without the diagonal line, but check out the picture BIONONE made - as you can see the lines between 1 and 8 actually confirm the angular artifact effect doesn't apply to this picture.

 

[GingerBubba]

Dude. You asked if you were being too picky. The people who are responding to you in this thread are people who between them, have bought many hundreds, possibly even thousands of reps between them. They are to a man saying that you are being too picky.

Fair enough if you don't like that answer, but going from drawing lines on a picture, to making gif isn't going to change our minds. You could do a PowerPoint presentation, you could make an animated short - you will still be being too picky.

But whatever, each to their own.

 

[Pickledbeetroot]

Come on guys, surely we aren't paying close to $400 to wear watches with flaws that can be seen from miles away?



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Miles away indeed :lmao:

 

[tkingjr]

@anon0104 Your photo with lines is 25 times bigger than my Breitling Rep I am wearing. You should be heading to your local AD to buy a Gen. You will never be happy with a Rep that is 5-10% of the cost of a Gen. We all know ZF's QC is not the best but this watch is fine.

 

[Tucker]

Come on guys, surely we aren't paying close to $400 to wear watches with flaws that can be seen from miles away?

Ok. You're finally on to me. Seriously dude, you have a problem that i'm afraid goes far beyond replica watches.

 

[T3RM1N4T0R]

Jesus can we add anymore lines?

OP please leave the forum this isnt a place or hobby for you

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[BIONONE]

Jesus can we add anymore lines?

I would love to add some more - looks more like pop art than a QC process to me

 

[alessandri]

Jesus can we add anymore lines?

OP please leave the forum this isnt a place or hobby for you

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I wanted to add one more circle.
This 4 looks dwarfishly(probably not a word) small compared to gen. Just adding a little(pun) more sarcasm.

 

[Wildcatfan]

This is crazy. It's like buying a new Ferrari for $25000 and complaining about a crooked center cap on the wheel.

 

[TheGarethJones]

I wanted to add one more circle.
This 4 looks dwarfishly(probably not a word) small compared to gen. Just adding a little(pun) more sarcasm.

Can you please add horizontal lines. Impossible to tell without. Also 4x zoom, please.

Related question: when I put my face very close to the crystal, the watch appears blurry. Anyone else know if gens do this? Also, If I push the ZF rep hard against my closed eye I then see a red spot for 5-7 minutes but with gen it is more burnt sienna/goldenrod and lasts 4-7 minutes. Anyone else having this problem? Dont know what the time would be in metric sorry


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[anon0104]

Just got pictures of a new one and went ahead and approved it. Took the advice of not zooming in further than the actual size of the watch, thanks for that.

I actually didn't realise I was getting trolled until like 10 replies in, had a good laugh after that. Must be karma for my own forum trolling in my younger days. I will definitely think about getting a gen in the future since apparently I am way too focused on details!

 

[lorenzo1910]

Just got pictures of a new one and went ahead and approved it. Took the advice of not zooming in further than the actual size of the watch, thanks for that.

I actually didn't realise I was getting trolled until like 10 replies in, had a good laugh after that. Must be karma for my own forum trolling in my younger days. I will definitely think about getting a gen in the future since apparently I am way too focused on details!

Mate, macro pics are the newbie's nightmare... Don't mind about those (ehm) issues... buy the watch, wear it and if (IF!) you still see something wrong... sell it in the M2M section...
[Nobody would act like this while buying a gen watch... and, believe me, many gens have the same (again, ehm) "issues"...]
Enjoy it!

 

[Luxuracer]

Just got pictures of a new one and went ahead and approved it. Took the advice of not zooming in further than the actual size of the watch, thanks for that.

 

[Hor-Fan]

You also need to realize that you’re looking at the dial through a curved piece of glass, unless it’s been ground and polished to absolute optical perfection, you can expect very minor distortion of some angles.


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[WC800729]

Not sure if you have actually seen the Genuine watch, but the numerals are smaller than you think. I am extremely picky, and never analyzed a watch face to that degree, or anywhere close. I would have never purchased one rep, since they all have errors or differences from the original , it is just a matter of degree.
If the numerals on my IWC’s were crooked, it would most likely drive me nuts, but fortunately I haven’t put on a 20 power loop to verify if one was out by 4 degrees. From my perspective, looking at the watch from 1 1/2 foot away, if I cannot see the flaw, how would anyone looking at your wrist see it? Even if you were to physicals bring the watch to someone’s face for them to see it, depending on the error, it may still go unnoticed.

Next time you have an issue like that, just request the TD take some additional photos from a different angle, and directly perpendicular to the numeral. You should then be able to tell if it is distortion. If it is actually out of alignment, just refuse it, but analyze it at a lower magnified, otherwise, you will drive yourself crazy.

 

[anon0104]

Not sure if you have actually seen the Genuine watch, but the numerals are smaller than you think. I am extremely picky, and never analyzed a watch face to that degree, or anywhere close. I would have never purchased one rep, since they all have errors or differences from the original , it is just a matter of degree.
If the numerals on my IWC’s were crooked, it would most likely drive me nuts, but fortunately I haven’t put on a 20 power loop to verify if one was out by 4 degrees. From my perspective, looking at the watch from 1 1/2 foot away, if I cannot see the flaw, how would anyone looking at your wrist see it? Even if you were to physicals bring the watch to someone’s face for them to see it, depending on the error, it may still go unnoticed.

Next time you have an issue like that, just request the TD take some additional photos from a different angle, and directly perpendicular to the numeral. You should then be able to tell if it is distortion. If it is actually out of alignment, just refuse it, but analyze it at a lower magnified, otherwise, you will drive yourself crazy.

Thanks for that. I will definitely keep that in mind. Today I actually noticed that my gen Seiko has a crooked 6 hour marker (which I didn't notice for the past 2 years), so you're definitely right about gens having flaws as well, and about small flaws being barely noticable.

 

[WC800729]

Hope my 2 cents put you a bit at ease. As you now noticed, your gen has a flaw. I think one of my IWC’s has the numeral 1 ever so slightly out of place. I noticed it when I first received it, then forgot about it and only remembered due to this thread. We all buy these watches for different reasons, at a fraction of what the gens cost. What always amazes me is that $6,500.00+ difference in price!!! So if you think about it, depending on the watch, it is a staggering bargain for a beautiful piece of engineering. Keep in mind, the gen watch strap from IWC is only a few dollars less than the watches we are purchasing! So, given the choice of wearing a gen watch strap with a paper clip holding the two sections together, or for $75.00 more I can have the rep watch and strap, I’ll take the rep. Also, I always change the straps to genuine croc or alligator, which can be purchased from one of the TD on the forum for a fraction of what a brand name strap costs. For myself, they look incredible and function perfectly (you do have to maintain them every few years, but that is true for gens also). So enjoy and don’t drive yourself crazy.