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ZF cartier tank :)

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Just ordered the 25 zf. I'm a complete noob when it comes to Cartier so i'm not able to tell how good this rep is straight away.

However imo the zf has the best looking strap out of all makers that do the solo.

Taking a quick look at the gen vs rep comparison pics on ts station i've noticed the hands and crown jewl are brighter on the rep, crown is not as nicely finished on the rep and the teeth look a bit diffrent. Crystal has better edge on gen and the case is better finished. The dial print is thicker on the rep and looks glossy while on the gen looks duller. Overall i'd say the rep is pretty good.

Can you guys post your thoughts as well? Are the other tanks out the worth checking out ? Like the LMF or the GF versions.

My wife just fell in love with the tank solo when we were on a trip in Austria last month, but i just can't justify paying over 2k on a quartz :) .

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She absolutely hates reps although she can't tell them apart lol. So i've lied i found a cheap gen on m2m :))) . The one she likes had the orange strap, so i hope i can find one on ebay.

Do you guys know if cartier did indeed make the tank solo with a quartz movement ?

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Just ordered the 25 zf. I'm a complete noob when it comes to Cartier so i'm not able to tell how good this rep is straight away.

However imo the zf has the best looking strap out of all makers that do the solo.

Taking a quick look at the gen vs rep comparison pics on ts station i've noticed the hands and crown jewl are brighter on the rep, crown is not as nicely finished on the rep and the teeth look a bit diffrent. Crystal has better edge on gen and the case is better finished. The dial print is thicker on the rep and looks glossy while on the gen looks duller. Overall i'd say the rep is pretty good.

Can you guys post your thoughts as well? Are the other tanks out the worth checking out ? Like the LMF or the GF versions.

My wife just fell in love with the tank solo when we were on a trip in Austria last month, but i just can't justify paying over 2k on a quartz :) .

Am6aDuQ.jpg


She absolutely hates reps although she can't tell them apart lol. So i've lied i found a cheap gen on m2m :))) . The one she likes had the orange strap, so i hope i can find one on ebay.

Do you guys know if cartier did indeed make the tank solo with a quartz movement ?

Cheers.


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Hahah my girlfriend is the same, hate reps but could not tell which is gen and which is not.... pretty cheeky to buy her a rep and say it`s gen though, what do you do if she brings it to Cartier? :D keep us updated!

And yes the gen tank solo also has a quartz movement.
 

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Hahah my girlfriend is the same, hate reps but could not tell which is gen and which is not.... pretty cheeky to buy her a rep and say it`s gen though, what do you do if she brings it to Cartier? :D keep us updated!

And yes the gen tank solo also has a quartz movement.

A friend of mine just spent 8k on a fake DSSD 116660 with a gen movement inside :( . He took it to Rolex and the bloody fools told the guy it was gen, lol. The watch was a v6s noob DSSD. So if rolex here can't tell watches apart , i guess cartier can't either :)) But she won't check it anyway. Don't get me wrong, i'm not cheap but i'll feel a lot better buying her diamond earrings for ex, than spending 2k on a quartz.

What about the other makers? Are those versions any good ?
 
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A friend of mine just spent 8k on a fake DSSD 116660 with a gen movement inside :( . He took it to Rolex and the bloody fools told the guy it was gen, lol. The watch was a v6s noob DSSD. So if rolex here can't tell watches apart , i guess cartier can't either :)) But she won't check it anyway. Don't get me wrong, i'm not cheap but i'll feel a lot better buying her diamond earrings for ex, than spending 2k on a quartz.

What about the other makers? Are those versions any good ?

haha poor guy but a bit embarassing from Rolex that they didn`t really check it properly? I mean if they had checked up on the serial number they should have known it`s a rep no?

I have no idea about the other tank solo versions but I just paid for the ZF one and await QC pics now. I explicitly asked for the larger version with the "cartier" on VII, I Will post them here once I have them.
 

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Does anyone know what ZF uses for their sapphire cabachon on the crown? Hoping it's not a cheaper plastic.
 

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haha poor guy but a bit embarassing from Rolex that they didn`t really check it properly? I mean if they had checked up on the serial number they should have known it`s a rep no?

I have no idea about the other tank solo versions but I just paid for the ZF one and await QC pics now. I explicitly asked for the larger version with the "cartier" on VII, I Will post them here once I have them.

I don't know how legit was the rsc verification. Maybe my friend knows a guy from rolex and he checked it as a favour, irdk and didn't bother to get into details, but he said even the serial on the case and bracelet matched, but that's not surprise to me anyway.

I've bought the 25mm version, the one with the cartier on the X :) i'll post qc pics once i have them as well.
 
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what made you choose the ZF version?

I chose zf cause i had to close an order quick and didn't had time to study. Now i did however and will post my thoughts on all versions vs gen pretty soon, like this evening :)

I found a lot of diffrences.

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looking forward to your thoughts, hope i can still switch my order if necessary :)

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Ok guys, after looking at pics for 2 days i came up with some conclusions about the 3 versions of tank solo out there.
You have to take into consideration that the observations were made on the 25mm model and do not apply for the 28mm.
I've never seen a gen, or a rep in person so my thoughts are strictly based on the pics and may be wrong.

Feel free to chime in and opinions or correct any mistake i've made.

Let's begin. I'll make remarks about each version in comparrison to the gen and not to each other.

DIAL: winner: gpf

ZF: font is thicker (thicker paint that is) , too glossy vs the matte black on the gen

LMF: font seems glossy to me again but thicker at the same time (bold). The hour markers below the roman numerals protrude a bit toward the center.

GPF: dial looks good, the text doesn't seem shiny. better than the rest imo.



HANDS: winner: gpf maybe

zf: brighter blue than gen, more rounded, minute hand cap (pinion) is a bit smaller and black/grey vs silver on the gen. Minute center piece is more rounded as well

lmf: hands look better. center cap looks better as well and silver like the gen but larger in diameter than it should be.

gpf: hands look pretty good, less rounded than the zf and a bit darker, better than zf imo. center cap looks to be the correct size. they may be a little to thick towards the center...



CASE: winner: LMF but there is a catch though. On the gen the crown sits just slightly below the 2 screws (almost in line) . on the zf it sits slightly above. On the lmf it sits below the screws as well like on the gen but too much. On the GPF it sits below as well but the case has too many flaws.


zf: pretty much the same but a bit more roudned, more buffed .

This can be easily seen on the sides near the screws where the light is refleted in a bent light rather than a straight line on the gen.
The flat surfaces on the face of the watch have the edges rounded pretty much the same as the gen watch.
I'm not sure if there's a case bevel underneath the crystal or it that's just the crystal edge but it's much nicer on the gen.
I'm talking about the bevel right beneath the crystal's edge. On zf that's not as straight looking.
Also , on TS station comparison pics you can see that the bottom spingbar is not sitting in line with the case. This can be a qc issue but the case lugs may be drilled incorrectly, so watch out.

lmf: the flat surfaces on the front look more flat but still having a bit of the rouned edge, just like the gen .
The top and bottom brushed surfaces on the front face look better defined than ZF.
The bevel underneath the crystal is roughly the same as zf and worse than gen.
Side screws look better and the light reflection near the screws show how good the case is finished. The reflection is in a straight line and not bent near the screw.
The back looks way better than ZF for ex, with the backcase nicely sitting tight in the midcase having no gaps. The lugs have a nice flat finish to them.

gpf: the polished flat faces on the face are too large and have sharper edge than they should (just like on the 28mm model), so the case is not correct for the 25mm ver.
One side screw is not a screw at all :) Such a shame because the bevel underneath the crystal is better than the rest.



CASEBACK: Winner : LMF

zf: corners of the case are more rounded and don't meet the caseback so thightly as on the gen.
Screws are a bit smaller.
Lugs are not straight, they have rough looking edges.
But it also can be a loose strap.
Text on the caseback is lower quality than on the gen but the font is almost the same.

lmf: The backcase sits a bit taller imo.
Font looks better as well, nicely engraved ( higher resolution to my eyes )
backcase screws look better as well.

gpf: caseback text looks to be laser etched rather than engraved like the gen is. screws are flat when they should be rounded.



CROWN: winner ZF

zf: the teeth look a bit slimmer and not so well defined.
The pearl or jewl looks similar but the color seems a bit brighter as well in strong light.
The crown is better finished on the gen having a smoother surface, while on the zf is a bit rough.

lmf :
teeh are shorter
jwel looks darker like it shoul imo but that is shorter as well and less pointy.

gpf: crown looks smaller and shorter. Pearl looks shorter as well.

STRAP: winner ZF

zf: thicker to my eyes
pattern less visible & a bit smaller grain..

lmf: diffrent pattern but i've seen that on the gen as well
It has not easy removable springbras! the springbars don't have a lever to pull them from.

gpf: looks better than zf and has the line outside the stiching just like the 2018 gen. Also and the springbars have the easy removal lever. The pattern on the leather is diffrent however. Also stiching is made too much towards the inside on the strap

FLIPLOCK: winner ZF ?

zf: 90 degree corners are more rounded on zf
lmf: no significant difference imo
gpf: same

Sorry for not posting any pics but i've been so busy with work i didn't had time to. i'll share the links below so you can judge for yourself :

ZF: https://www.intime02.co/cartier/4678...da-quartz.html
LMF: http://chazingtime01.co/product/tank...-ronda-quartz/
GPF: https://www.intime02.co/cartier/4233...da-quartz.html

there is another version of gpf on chazing's site but i've chosen not to look at that : )

What would i chose ?

LMF case
GPF dial
GPF hands
ZF of GPF strap
ZF crown

But since i've already ordered the zf i'll stick to that for now .

Hope this helps.
 

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Thanks so much for this detailed comparison! The dial on recent tank solos are a bit more glossy now compared to the older references. I previously owned an early 90s tank solo large that had essentially matte printing. I was looking at at a recent one at the Cartier boutique and the first thing I noticed was how much more reflective and glossy the recent dials have become. But I agree the ZF lettering looks a bit too thick. TSwatch had some comparison shots between the ZF and gen if you want to take a look: https://www.ts-station.cn/goods.php?ProId=23215
 

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Ok guys, after looking at pics for 2 days i came up with some conclusions about the 3 versions of tank solo out there.
You have to take into consideration that the observations were made on the 25mm model and do not apply for the 28mm.
I've never seen a gen, or a rep in person so my thoughts are strictly based on the pics and may be wrong.

Feel free to chime in and opinions or correct any mistake i've made.

Let's begin. I'll make remarks about each version in comparrison to the gen and not to each other.

DIAL: winner: gpf

ZF: font is thicker (thicker paint that is) , too glossy vs the matte black on the gen

LMF: font seems glossy to me again but thicker at the same time (bold). The hour markers below the roman numerals protrude a bit toward the center.

GPF: dial looks good, the text doesn't seem shiny. better than the rest imo.



HANDS: winner: gpf maybe

zf: brighter blue than gen, more rounded, minute hand cap (pinion) is a bit smaller and black/grey vs silver on the gen. Minute center piece is more rounded as well

lmf: hands look better. center cap looks better as well and silver like the gen but larger in diameter than it should be.

gpf: hands look pretty good, less rounded than the zf and a bit darker, better than zf imo. center cap looks to be the correct size. they may be a little to thick towards the center...



CASE: winner: LMF but there is a catch though. On the gen the crown sits just slightly below the 2 screws (almost in line) . on the zf it sits slightly above. On the lmf it sits below the screws as well like on the gen but too much. On the GPF it sits below as well but the case has too many flaws.


zf: pretty much the same but a bit more roudned, more buffed .

This can be easily seen on the sides near the screws where the light is refleted in a bent light rather than a straight line on the gen.
The flat surfaces on the face of the watch have the edges rounded pretty much the same as the gen watch.
I'm not sure if there's a case bevel underneath the crystal or it that's just the crystal edge but it's much nicer on the gen.
I'm talking about the bevel right beneath the crystal's edge. On zf that's not as straight looking.
Also , on TS station comparison pics you can see that the bottom spingbar is not sitting in line with the case. This can be a qc issue but the case lugs may be drilled incorrectly, so watch out.

lmf: the flat surfaces on the front look more flat but still having a bit of the rouned edge, just like the gen .
The top and bottom brushed surfaces on the front face look better defined than ZF.
The bevel underneath the crystal is roughly the same as zf and worse than gen.
Side screws look better and the light reflection near the screws show how good the case is finished. The reflection is in a straight line and not bent near the screw.
The back looks way better than ZF for ex, with the backcase nicely sitting tight in the midcase having no gaps. The lugs have a nice flat finish to them.

gpf: the polished flat faces on the face are too large and have sharper edge than they should (just like on the 28mm model), so the case is not correct for the 25mm ver.
One side screw is not a screw at all :) Such a shame because the bevel underneath the crystal is better than the rest.



CASEBACK: Winner : LMF

zf: corners of the case are more rounded and don't meet the caseback so thightly as on the gen.
Screws are a bit smaller.
Lugs are not straight, they have rough looking edges.
But it also can be a loose strap.
Text on the caseback is lower quality than on the gen but the font is almost the same.

lmf: The backcase sits a bit taller imo.
Font looks better as well, nicely engraved ( higher resolution to my eyes )
backcase screws look better as well.

gpf: caseback text looks to be laser etched rather than engraved like the gen is. screws are flat when they should be rounded.



CROWN: winner ZF

zf: the teeth look a bit slimmer and not so well defined.
The pearl or jewl looks similar but the color seems a bit brighter as well in strong light.
The crown is better finished on the gen having a smoother surface, while on the zf is a bit rough.

lmf :
teeh are shorter
jwel looks darker like it shoul imo but that is shorter as well and less pointy.

gpf: crown looks smaller and shorter. Pearl looks shorter as well.

STRAP: winner ZF

zf: thicker to my eyes
pattern less visible & a bit smaller grain..

lmf: diffrent pattern but i've seen that on the gen as well
It has not easy removable springbras! the springbars don't have a lever to pull them from.

gpf: looks better than zf and has the line outside the stiching just like the 2018 gen. Also and the springbars have the easy removal lever. The pattern on the leather is diffrent however. Also stiching is made too much towards the inside on the strap

FLIPLOCK: winner ZF ?

zf: 90 degree corners are more rounded on zf
lmf: no significant difference imo
gpf: same

Sorry for not posting any pics but i've been so busy with work i didn't had time to. i'll share the links below so you can judge for yourself :

ZF: https://www.intime02.co/cartier/4678...da-quartz.html
LMF: http://chazingtime01.co/product/tank...-ronda-quartz/
GPF: https://www.intime02.co/cartier/4233...da-quartz.html

there is another version of gpf on chazing's site but i've chosen not to look at that : )

What would i chose ?

LMF case
GPF dial
GPF hands
ZF of GPF strap
ZF crown

But since i've already ordered the zf i'll stick to that for now .

Hope this helps.

Thank you for the write-up! Unfortunately this does not make my decision easier as to which model I should chose
 
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