Unfortunate news... Spongebob was supposed to send back my ZF dial over the weekend but was quite preoccupied and subsequently forgot..
Since I'm flying to the States day after tomorrow, I wont get a chance to post comparison pictures until after I'm back, around mid July..
Hope you guys don't mind the wait. Will follow up in due course.
I ordered a kmf. Will post pics of both watches when kmf is here.
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Good job thank you,
as you mentioned you already have a ZF, don't you?
I will waiting for you !
but I thought I will order the ZF base on what you say and recommend here, since the bad MARKER is easy to see then bad Dial ! How do you think about my decision
check the first page of your thread
I would agree with this, the ZF flaws (in my opinion) don't stand out quite as much as the KMF.
If only KMF would fix their markers (lume fill) they could easily surpass ZF.
Dont forget the Keylog DWO for the finishing touches
Good luck!
Thank you very much, btw you say if KMF marker is fix they would surpass ZF easily, so if we left away the marker which parts that KMF surpass/superior than ZF? thank you
check the first page of your thread
Will you be keeping both? I am looking to buy if you do put one up for sale.
I need parts from both watches, so yes Im keeping them
Any td can get you one tho.
which parts do you think KMF better than ZF that you need parts to mix them ? thank you
Mate, LuminorReptar has already given you all the details on this, one page back
I appriciate his opinion and already give it a like,
but still one to here from another person, just for gather information and different viewpoints.
but as far as I see, even if they want to mod/franken, people always buy ZF before KMF, do not know why
Okay.. So I've spent the day kind of playing on and off with both the ZF and KMF and observing the differences.. Two additional observations I've noticed:
1. The ZF dial is very matte , the KMF dial has a blatant gloss finish to the surface texture. I really wish I had a gen on hand to see how it compares, but in the end I resorted to a ton of youtube reviews and videos... In conclusion I feel like the gen is somewhere in between. Its not as matte as the ZF, but its also not nearly as glossy as the KMF.. I honestly can't say which looks better. The sunburst of the ZF is too prominent for sure, but between the gloss and matte finish.. Both are equally off from the gen.
2. The grooves on the dial. Its a bit hard to explain but the grooves on gen are very uniform. They are perfectly even throughout. They dont bulge in the middle, or near the intersections. In this case ZF is definitely better. The grooves are very very uniform, and there is no bulge or dips where the grooves intersect. The KMF has very obvious "bulging" where the grooves intersect, and then at the mid-points (furthest points from the intersections), the grooves seem to dip into each other. The effect is something of a "wave". If you look at it compared to gen you can see the bulges at the intersection become very obvious.
Sorry if I've gotten a bit neurotic with these comparisons. I just find it fascinating. The gen dial is a lot more complex than I've given it credit for in the past. I still can't say whether I prefer the ZF dial or the KMF. Its incredible how each has very distinct flaws, hard to say conclusively which is better.
Wow, Thank you alot for your times
So in the end you still cannot decide which one is BETTER? or which one really closer to GEN?
In the end I think I would still go with KMF over ZF. Both have their flaws and its entirely up to you to decide which you prefer.
The KMF has a better sunburst, and personally I feel a better dial color as well. However the dial is a bit too glossy (hard to see unless at certain angles and lighting) , and also the geosphere pattern on the dial is not cut as cleanly as ZF.
The ZF has better geosphere cut, but it has a line flaw at "5". It also has too prominent sunburst which I think looks quite obvious. Lastly the dial is a bit too matte, but again this is hard to see unless at certain angles and with harsher lighting conditions.