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ZF AP Royal Oak 15500 bezel screws getting worse? (My QC pictures from puretime)
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Are they protruding from the bezel? If so, I would refuse it and ask for another one.
This is mine, which I accepted a few days ago though the centring of the screws is not perfect, I can live with it.
This is mine, which I accepted a few days ago though the centring of the screws is not perfect, I can live with it.
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Oh you were lucky. The one I got for QC (that I've GLed) looks way worse (attached). Here's hoping I can fix the screws myself and align them properly. ZF V2 - same TD.
EDIT: I don't know how to insert a picture so here's an album:
https://imgur.com/a/8Pd5DYq
EDIT: I don't know how to insert a picture so here's an album:
https://imgur.com/a/8Pd5DYq
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Here are my QC’s…. Feel like the screws have just gotten worse and worse.. I think I will only take one of those just not sure which flaws I prefer… drunken A’s on the back too:/
https://imgur.com/a/C4Dw1Sx
https://imgur.com/a/ikQq3qi
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https://imgur.com/a/C4Dw1Sx
https://imgur.com/a/ikQq3qi
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Well, it is a rep afterall. I understand what you are saying.. even reps can have aligned and well machined screws in theory.
What you can do is to send it to a modder in your region to have the screws (and other flaws/concerns) addressed. The rotor noise is something QC pics can never pick up, and you may wish to get the watch silenced as well if you cannot tolerate the noise.
I am not encouraging you to get your watch modded, but it can be a more effective route to address your concerns all at one go rather than to reject QC after QC and building a bad rapport with your TD down the road.
I hear you and yeah will have to get a modder… tougher then it seems finding one in London. Anyway… I’m also concerned on the color of the white dial so think I’ll go for the black… any thoughts?
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UK has its own fair share of talented modders!
If you want a direct reply, then yes, get the black dial.
+1.
Rep owners in general are a lot more pedantic than gen owners. When buying new gens it’s always collecting the watch, drinking the champagne, maybe a few pics for the Instagram and carrying the entire shebang, box and all home. $30k watch and what QC pics?!
Yes one may argue that AP or Rolex has done the QC for the owner at the given high premium price but the kicker is that I’ve seen flaws and defects on my brand new gens too. Did I reject them? Yes I did. These are high end watches and I spotted the defects myself in person and therefore they are visible to the naked eye. If there’s anyone curious, one was a dial print defect ant the other was a chrono hand being reset to the 10 o’clock instead of the 12 o’clock position. Lol. I did not bring a throng of guys with me to AP when collecting the watch or a 10x loupe to scrutinize the watch.
When buying reps, you start by zooming 10x on the QC pics and start picking on flaws (some real, most not) on a watch less than 50mm in diameter in real life. Arrows and circles and grids are drawn on the QC pics, and shared with the community because it’s important that the $500 rep watch needs hundreds of pairs of eyes to scrutinize it to ensure it’s perfectly aligned and all. So typically, a lot of rep watches using the miyota movements arrived at the owner address looking all fine but sounding like helicopters taking off.
I have a pet peeve against owners drawing circles and lines and grids and also QC pics being shared with the community. These are completely unnecessary for a novelty watch costing less than a set of new AP straps. If owners can see the flaws on the QC pics then reject them. If watch looks ok overall, don’t zoom in to deliberately spot flaws and definitely don’t send the QC pics to the forum for extended checks under one pretext or another. If one cannot spot any flaws, then the watch is good enough. If one is intent on spotting flaws, then nothing will be good enough. There will always be flaws. So where to draw the line when it comes to QC?
Guys, it’s a $500 watch and not a $30k gen. It’s reasonable to ensure that it’s the correct model you ordered and dial print and general alignment is good. That watch is ticking on the timegrapher. That it is dirt, scratch and blemish free. The community will not wear your watch, you will. If you want to be pedantic and picky it’s your right of course, but kindly keep it between the dealer and yourself. A lot of times, vision and opinions are subjective and debating over a picture of one person’s watch in the forum is plain silly and a waste of time and forum space IMHO.
I definitely agree, but sadly the best AP 15500 I know comes from either ZF or JF only.
Are they protruding from the bezel? If so, I would refuse it and ask for another one.
This is mine, which I accepted a few days ago though the centring of the screws is not perfect, I can live with it.
Mines not protruding, but i noticed that quite a few screws were misaligned, which I have no idea if I could fix them myself or send it to a modder to help me out.
I was looking for modders in Singapore(where i live) but I can't find any, any recommendations?
From afar it looks alright, but being the very observant person I am, I noticed it immediately. But I was lazy to reject it as I thought I had to wait another 2 weeks for QC pics to arrive, so I decided to accept it and send it to a modder instead.
Can you point out the screws which are misaligned? I am sure you see what you see, and the purpose of my question is to understand your issue a little more to see if it is fixable.
The screw doesn't fit perfectly in the hexagonal-shaped hole, I don't really know how to describe it but its quite obvious from the photo.
The screw doesn't fit perfectly in the hexagonal-shaped hole, I don't really know how to describe it but its quite obvious from the photo.
And now having looked at it closer, it looks like the screw on the bottom left of this picture is slightly protruding i think.
Yes, they are fixable. In fact, all the 8 screws exhibit the same issue to varying degrees. The screws and slots will need to be machined and realigned if you want an ideal fitment.
Upfront, I will tell you that in this case, a 100% perfect fit for every bezel screw is unlikely. But you can definitely do better.