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Z Fac 382 Bronzo appears (NOT) to have plated parts.... Updated

eshow3907

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I enjoy a train wreck as much as the next sick human, but am glad to see this end with a happily ever after.

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everyone is board waiting for the next big release and coming up with problems to solve can this stupidity stop already
 

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Sadly it will not. " I DEMAND THAT MY 500 DOLLAR FAKE WATCH BE EXACTLY LIKE IT'S $25K COUNTERPART DAMMIT !!!! "
The scary thing: apart from the movement it almost is!
 

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The topic of this thread needs to be edited, accordingly.


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I will correct the title like RG colleagues did

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Yes
I will correct the title like RG colleagues did

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I corrected the title at RG not the admin and I tried to do it here, but I guees it didn't go through.

Anyways, maybe you can change it again for me since this little story is not over quite yet....



Now for the follow up.


After wiping the silver area on the CG with lemon juice and seeing the bronze color return last night, I cleaned the CG off and let the watch sit all day today and did not wear it. When I returned home from the races late today I picked up the watch. The silver area has once again completely returned. I am not a metalurgist (He!!, I don't even know if I spelled it right) but what I can tell you is that bronze does not turn silver. I really apreciated the people here who were interested in solving this issue vs the people who prefer to pass final judgements, so if any of you guys who may have some more good ideas as to what excatly is / may be going on can offer up some more ideas I would greatly appreciate your input.


Clearly there seems to be an issue with the "Bronze" my CG is made from and although I really like the watch, the two tone CG look screams cheap fake.... :(
 

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Here is a picture I just took. It is not altered in anyway. Where the CG foot meets the case is the shiniest silver so the bronze color and what appears to be a gap at the foot is just reflections from the case. The dirty silver color is pretty obvious.

TwoToneCG.jpg
 

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Here is a picture I just took. It is not altered in anyway. Where the CG foot meets the case is the shiniest silver so the bronze color and what appears to be a gap at the foot is just reflections from the case. The dirty silver color is pretty obvious.

TwoToneCG.jpg


wow that's cool! Didn't know Panerai made a 2 tone sub.



seriously, that's not cool. Thats no easy fix either....Too bad u can't get refund
 

Jake48

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wow that's cool! Didn't know Panerai made a 2 tone sub.



seriously, that's not cool. Thats no easy fix either....Too bad u can't get refund

Gaizka - I purchased the watch from Angus and although I have been doing business with him for many years, his policy is the same for all. If you have an obvious defect, get the watch to him and he will make it right. The key is "defect" He is not going to do much for the crowd who can't understand why their $400.00 replica does not look exactly like the $30,000.00 Gen lol

I have no worries about Angus making it right, but I hate to send the entire watch back. There are some very knowledgeable people around here and I am hoping one of them can figure this thng out before I am left with the option of sending it back. I am a little freaked to clean it again becuase whatever is going on, I dont want it to spread...

As stated before, otherwise, this is a very nice watch!
 

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Maybe now you should have the title changed to; "Z Fac 382 Bronzo appears to be turning from possibly Bronze plated to Silver, I think I might be rich!!!"
 

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I don't understand why the silver would turn bronze-ish when cleaning it with lemon juice only to return to the silvery color after some time. Lemon juice actually removes any tarnish from silver (or steel), so if anything, the silver color should not have changed color but should have become brighter.
 

Jake48

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I don't understand why the silver would turn bronze-ish when cleaning it with lemon juice only to return to the silvery color after some time. Lemon juice actually removes any tarnish from silver (or steel), so if anything, the silver color should not have changed color but should have become brighter.

You might be on to something mysterio. I went ahead and cleaned it again. This time it had less effect on the silver area so I took a little Flitz and polshed it a bit. The shine makes the bronze more chrome reflective like and the silver shines bright too, so now it is really hard to tell the silver from bronze. It looks to me like the bronze may dull much faster than the silver area. I will keep an eye on it over the next few days and see what happens. When I look at it under a 10x loupe it almost looks like a blend of silver metal nezxt to bronze.

Really weird...
 

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You might be on to something mysterio. I went ahead and cleaned it again. This time it had less effect on the silver area so I took a little Flitz and polshed it a bit. The shine makes the bronze more chrome reflective like and the silver shines bright too, so now it is really hard to tell the silver from bronze. It looks to me like the bronze may dull much faster than the silver area. I will keep an eye on it over the next few days and see what happens. When I look at it under a 10x loupe it almost looks like a blend of silver metal nezxt to bronze.Really weird...
Could you also take pic in natural light, hard to see clearly the tone I f silver
 

gaizka

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You might be on to something mysterio. I went ahead and cleaned it again. This time it had less effect on the silver area so I took a little Flitz and polshed it a bit. The shine makes the bronze more chrome reflective like and the silver shines bright too, so now it is really hard to tell the silver from bronze. It looks to me like the bronze may dull much faster than the silver area. I will keep an eye on it over the next few days and see what happens. When I look at it under a 10x loupe it almost looks like a blend of silver metal nezxt to bronze.

Really weird...


Could you also take pic in natural light, hard to see clearly the tone of the silver
 

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That's weird. Especially since you and atespo scratched crownguard and case...
 

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I have a Gen H18 solid bronze diver and did the egg experiment described on "worn&wound". Silver surfaces started to appear all over the place. I am sorry i didn't take a picture. I used toothpaste and toothbrush to clean them up..(toothpaste is a mild polisher).
My point is that those silver surfaces could be the patina on the bronze.
 

Jake48

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I have a Gen H18 solid bronze diver and did the egg experiment described on "worn&wound". Silver surfaces started to appear all over the place. I am sorry i didn't take a picture. I used toothpaste and toothbrush to clean them up..(toothpaste is a mild polisher).
My point is that those silver surfaces could be the patina on the bronze.

That is what I wanted to believe, but I have my doubt's becuase

1. Patina can not develope so quickly
2. After being cleaned, the patina came back in the exact same location and pattern
3. Patina is not shiny silver in color.
4. You can not polish patina.


I have been asked to post better pictures but becuase the silver is so reflective it is very difficult to photograph because it reflects the colors around it. Trust me it is silver and has the same look of Stainless steel.