Yachtmaster recommendation needed

[Alex1976]

Hi YM experts,

fell in love with:

Yacht-Master 42mm 226659 Clean 1:1 Best Edition Falcon’s Eye Dial on Black Rubber Strap VR3235 - Chazingtime

Size 42mm x 12mm Movement Asian 3235 super clone automatic movement at 28800vph, VR3235 Functions Hours, minutes, seconds and date

chazingtime08.co

Just wondering if the pretty high price is justified or would you rtecommend a different factory for that beatiful model?

Highly appreciate all feedback and comments.

 

[Alex1976]

Or that one:

Yacht-Master 42mm 226659 TEDF 1:1 Best Edition 3D Black Ceramic Bezel on Oysterflex Strap VS3235 (Gain Weight) - Chazingtime

Size 42mm x 13mm Movement VSF custom made 3235 super clone automatic movement at 28800vph with working gears, no decoration

chazingtime08.co

 

[Feefo]

My 2 cents, tedf is not as known as clean, but iirc it's a spin-off of vsf, it also has its movement, which is generally recognized as a very good one.
On the other hand the VR movement clean uses is more easily replaceable if something goes wrong.
Can't speak for finishing quality though, clean cases are usually very well done. Tough decision. I'd do some research on this ted-factory to check if overall quality is up to clean.

 

[Rx4Time]

While I think ultimately you would be happy with either one, consider this. The TEDF has additional weight in the mid case so it's overall weight will be closer to the genuine's. The VS movement is considered the best movement out there. Replacements are not as readily available as the VR, but just about everything in it is compatible with genuine parts so it could be repaired should an issue a rise. I can't speak to the finish quality. Personally I am not a fan of any of the Rolex with the rubber bracelet.

 

[Yacht-Monster]

I’ve owned almost every variant of the rep and although the TED factory is essentially a VSF with extra weight, it’s still around 50g less than the gen. I’ve ordered the Gold factory version as the weight is closer but it does use a VR movement but that doesn’t bother me. Their 126655 tungsten rep is superb so I’m hoping for the same with their 226659 rep.

 

[Alex1976]

I’ve owned almost every variant of the rep and although the TED factory is essentially a VSF with extra weight, it’s still around 50g less than the gen. I’ve ordered the Gold factory version as the weight is closer but it does use a VR movement but that doesn’t bother me. Their 126655 tungsten rep is superb so I’m hoping for the same with their 226659 rep.

Interesting, never heard of the Gold factory, will check it out and thank you for the feedback.

 

[Yacht-Monster]

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[Alex1976]

Now not sure if going with VSF, Clean or Gold Factory......................after some research VSF seems to be the best option if weight is not a priority??

 

[Reaps]

Now not sure if going with VSF, Clean or Gold Factory......................after some research VSF seems to be the best option if weight is not a priority??

Do you care about weight?

Yes? Gold or TEDF

No? VSF

Personally for me, the weight is a gimmick. It makes the watch more uncomfortable to wear. So I would go VSF.

 

[deffleopard03]

Do you care about weight?

Yes? Gold or TEDF

No? VSF

Personally for me, the weight is a gimmick. It makes the watch more uncomfortable to wear. So I would go VSF.

How about a CF yatchmaster?

 

[Reaps]

How about a CF yatchmaster?

CF and VSF to me same tier. Depends on what you value. I think CF looks better overall. VS crystal and movement better. But imho they both kinda the same quality.

 

[Storm.]

Guys what's the point of the whole "I want the weight" thing.

Nobody is gonna rip your watch off your wrist and say "hmmm not gold weight"

I have a 116518 and the steel weight makes the watch so comfortable as it's barely noticable on wrist

 

[Yacht-Monster]

Guys what's the point of the whole "I want the weight" thing.

Nobody is gonna rip your watch off your wrist and say "hmmm not gold weight"

I have a 116518 and the steel weight makes the watch so comfortable as it's barely noticable on wrist

I see your point and it’s probably a personal preference but you could say the same for rep movements, especially with Rolex clones as nobody’s going to rip your case back off. For me it’s about getting the rep as close to the gen. I had a VSF white gold plated, waterproofed and serviced, but after handling the gen the lightest of it just threw me off each wear.

 

[Yacht-Monster]

Do you care about weight?

Yes? Gold or TEDF

No? VSF

Personally for me, the weight is a gimmick. It makes the watch more uncomfortable to wear. So I would go VSF.

TED is VSF according to the TDs. Some members have speculated why but it’s just their tungsten label for the same watch.

 

[Reaps]

I see your point and it’s probably a personal preference but you could say the same for rep movements, especially with Rolex clones as nobody’s going to rip your case back off. For me it’s about getting the rep as close to the gen. I had a VSF white gold plated, waterproofed and serviced, but after handling the gen the lightest of it just threw me off each wear.

I don't wanna be that guy, everyone has their own opinion,

But clone movements serve some kind of purpose for looks, especially stem/crown height, hand stack, cannon pinion height, correct thickness, for chronos, correct subdial location, etc.

Then you go further and you see that clone movements allow for the feasibility of swapping gen parts into it easily.... for example, in the Daydate frankens, it has been really hard to swap gen daywheels and datewheels into 2836 without some kind of custom overlay and shaving those wheels.... whereas hopefully the new VR3255 allows for a direct swap easily

Whereas added weight is just that, a gimmick, added weight

 

[Yacht-Monster]

I don't wanna be that guy, everyone has their own opinion,

But clone movements serve some kind of purpose for looks, especially stem/crown height, hand stack, cannon pinion height, correct thickness, for chronos, correct subdial location, etc.

Then you go further and you see that clone movements allow for the feasibility of swapping gen parts into it easily.... for example, in the Daydate frankens, it has been really hard to swap gen daywheels and datewheels into 2836 without some kind of custom overlay and shaving those wheels.... whereas hopefully the new VR3255 allows for a direct swap easily

Whereas added weight is just that, a gimmick, added weight

I see your point and it is a personal preference for sure. For me the weight isn’t a gimmick as the whole point for me is to get it as close to gen as I can. As mentioned, my VSF irked me even though I put a decent amount of money into it. Maybe had I not handled the gen it wouldn’t have been the case but that’s how I feel about it. So much that I sold my VSF and waiting for my Gold 226659 to arrive.

 

[mattmcgarnsy]

I see your point and it is a personal preference for sure. For me the weight isn’t a gimmick as the whole point for me is to get it as close to gen as I can. As mentioned, my VSF irked me even though I put a decent amount of money into it. Maybe had I not handled the gen it wouldn’t have been the case but that’s how I feel about it. So much that I sold my VSF and waiting for my Gold 226659 to arrive.

I'm in exactly the same boat here. Once you handle a gen the weight is magnificent and oddly beautifully balanced/weighted which makes you feel your rep is missing something essential. I see reps as works of art and much enjoy the feel in my hand equally as much as what can be seen. So much so that a tungsten rehaut, as terrible as they are, imo is a worthwhile sacrifice to get the weight right.

 

[Reaps]

I'm in exactly the same boat here. Once you handle a gen the weight is magnificent and oddly beautifully balanced/weighted which makes you feel your rep is missing something essential. I see reps as works of art and much enjoy the feel in my hand equally as much as what can be seen. So much so that a tungsten rehaut, as terrible as they are, imo is a worthwhile sacrifice to get the weight right.

Not to rock your boat but the clasp is never tungsten on these watches, so you'll find it sits way worse than gen on Oysterflex. It's top heavy and will wiggle around if not seated properly.

 

[Reaps]

Steel clasp sits 22g-24g. The head weighs 124g+. So 85-90f% of the weight is distributed on the head.

I'm not shitting on anyone, if you like it, it's your opinion. But it's very top heavy.

 

[mattmcgarnsy]

Ok so out of a 159g oysterflex original, how much of that is it's weight without the strap+clasp ?

And a 147g xing likewise, what is the ratio split?

Obviously going on memory here so don't remember a lob sided difference as much as an overall difference.