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Will tube in noob 390 case set take gen crown; i.e., drop in w/ no issues?

mikewatch

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Update: For what it's worth, gen crown in my photos is New. See sales thread: http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/214623-FS-Pam367M-UBER-Modded-franken-CRAZY-Chef!

I'll still add some more photos later in direct lighting. Just a quick update. Take care.

Yeah if you can get some better side by side pics, now that you have posted NC's thread where that crown came from... dam that thing looks SO dam good on that watch! Since you can see them side by side in real life and think it is that close they must be pretty good. What an amazing watch on that thread tho, that dial and his build is spot on. I still say even at $140 and agree with NC the best upgrade to any rep as these are getting so good is still that gen crown. Would love to see some bright light daylight pics of those KV's you have polished next to that mint gen crown.
 

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Thanks guys for this nice contribution to RWI PAM Section
Really interesting

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pacecar2121

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Here we go guys; more photos in direct lighting. Keep in mind however that the lighting isn't professional, it's just the type of lighting that would be in a regular room during daylight with some lights on. I made sure the lighting was even on all crowns. The gen is marked with "gen" in the photos, all other crowns depicted (two others) are Kw's that I polished myself (also depicted in the photos from the first post).

The Very last one Does certainly show the Gen-vs.high-polished-Rep Crown difference in a supermacro shot (gen is superior, as I'm sure you guessed). For other angles and distances, you can see for yourself. I agree that the Gen crown is good to have, and I will likely use it on some future builds. However, I'll also continue to use the polished kw's (just depends on how I'll feel on that day). The gen is superior, sure. But a high polished KW is really good--excellent even. My personal conclusion: everyone should have at least one or two gen-crowned modded reps (or three, four, five, six, or seven....). But if you're collecting and building into the double digits (10+ high quality reps), saving some bucks on a super-high-polished kw is a great way to go--in most lighting it's hard to tell the difference without the watch in hand and some hardcore staring at close range.

All in all, good arguments on both sides, I think. Consider me tied for both.

On to the Photos:








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Yeah if you can get some better side by side pics, now that you have posted NC's thread where that crown came from... dam that thing looks SO dam good on that watch! Since you can see them side by side in real life and think it is that close they must be pretty good. What an amazing watch on that thread tho, that dial and his build is spot on. I still say even at $140 and agree with NC the best upgrade to any rep as these are getting so good is still that gen crown. Would love to see some bright light daylight pics of those KV's you have polished next to that mint gen crown.

Yea, the watch is awesome. Dial's killer, too. And I'm happy to have the gen crown on it.
 

pacecar2121

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The thread has become very attractive. Thank you guys, mike and pacecar. These pics are worth a thousand words, and normally it would be very difficult to take them.
Certainly the gen crown is unbeatable. Beautiful. But my judgment was based only on the quality / price ratio.
If I assemble a franken with a gen dial, probably I would add a gen crown. But on a modded rep, I dont think it's worth it.

Now the gen crowns cost too much. Until a couple of months ago they cost $ 90, and were already expensive. But today imho it's just too much.
Pacecar pics confirm my thoughts. The KW crowns are the closest to the gen both for building and for the shape.
Unfortunately to get them I should buy a complete watch, impossible to find them as spare parts.

What I can say is that the KW crowns are very well finished, sturdy and solid, perfect to ensure a good waterproof.
A proper polishing and they reach a high aesthetic level. (pacecar if you want to give me one I will be very happy!)

Mike pics would provide an opportunity to make some considerations also on CG and finishing.
I apologize if in the next few days I will not be very present on the forum, but unfortunately some commitments will keep me off for some time.

Thanks again guys for the great pics and for giving us the opportunity to make some very useful reflection.

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The crown in my build is HF. I had not any KW crown and I preferred HF than Noob because the inner tube is longer, larger and solid. A bamboo stiff. Excellent to waterproof a watch.
The shape isnt the best, but the building quality is good.

You're welcome. Actually, the particular h-factory crown that came on the build that I got from you (which you high polished) is only ever-so-slightly wider than the KW. It looks very good, too. The newer H-factory crowns (on a few stock h-facs I purchased recently) seem to me to be a little wider than the one I got on your build. But, that might just be because they are as yet unpolished. I'm going to polish one up when I get the time.

Thanks guys for this nice contribution to RWI PAM Section
Really interesting

LE

My pleasure.
 

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And lastly, just for our edification here's a KW High-polished (by me) versus a stock KW (No gen in this pic). High-polished has a rubber gasket, stock/unpolished has no rubber gasket. Decide for yourself if it's worth the time it takes to do it or if it falls into the area of diminishing returns. I think it's worth it, but the stock kw is good, too:

 

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Thanks again pacecar
Very detailed

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Hard to describe IMO how the inner edges being polished and sharp on a gen crown look as compared to any rep crown I have seen no matter how carefully and well polished. Hers are some gen pics of a new 5'er trying to capture it..



Another consideration. As we can see, the CG is NOT chamfered. The CG has been chamfered on PreV and still on the next batches to J-series and K-series.
From L-series this little polished bevel disappear. I hope to find an old thread on Paneristi and reported on RG some years ago about this detail.
Personally I still chamfer the CG because it's a very nice detail that gives essence to the watch.
 

mikewatch

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Actually it is chamfered Bozz. It is just not done overly so like we oftentimes do with reps. The chamfering on the 4 gen 005's that I have had ranging from N to now O all have very subtle chamfering that actually let's the underlying brushing come thru. On all my gens I have and have had you can easily see that the whole CG is brushed then a very light and perfectly thin and uniform, and consistent one pass low polishing is done to the edge. lever included. It is chamfered but the lighting doesn't show it well. On my 1950 case (233O) it is a high polish and gorgeous chamfer I agree and like better. Pam 510 a little more but again more subtle and not a high polished edge like the 1950 CG.
 

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Very useful thanks. So the small bevel is still here, but it has become even thinner than before in the course of time. Good to know