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Why will tell Customs the watch you are expecting is FAKE
- Thread starter jonathansig
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It would be great if something like this thread,but in a shorter version, was sent to anyone buying from other members. A disclosure of some sort before a deal can be made. Something that the seller would send to buyer like "feedback" that the buyer has to acknowledge and can be archived until sale is complete in case mods have to determine who is wrong or right. It would address sellers terms about customs risks, the sensitivity in buying these watches etc. etc.. I know that almost all of us know better and don't want to deal with hitting a button to say we have read it, but no one should have to deal with this. Unfortunately not everyone reads all the guidelines provided or has been through the process of buying like most of us have. I would imagine by now the buyer is sweating bullets and coming to his senses on what he did. I would hope so anyway. I've got my fingers crossed for ya and hope this all turns out okay for both you and the buyer.(But mostly you)
just the terms "buyer accepts all customs risks and issues" is enough for a buyer to understand that if customs knocks on his door, hes on his own...there is no reason the seller should try to rectify the situation or to split customs fees with the buyer.
Seller should state he/she will take all customs risk... if not then it should just be a given.
It's unfortunate we have to write out every little thing just to save our own ass.
It might come down to where member sales are like TD's where there will be fine print explaining the terms of sale. I almost always see when sellers are willing to ship world-wide that they mention the terms of customs risks on buyer. But for a buyer to not understand the sensitivity of our hobby and to even mention the word "fake" to customs or anyone showing concern during transaction is beyond me.
Holy crap.. For a measly $40 this tool is going to loose a BKYM? This is way more than a WTF, it's more like a WTHSGDMFBS (What the holy **** God Damn Mother ******* Barbara Streisand) moment.
This may be after the fact commentary, but the seller can't claim he was sending the watch for service. He shipped it to the buyer. Claiming it was a gen he was selling for a tenth of the price makes no sense...without more details.
I would say it is gen and that I owed the guy money, but he agreed to take the watch and pay a small amount to settle the debt. The the buyer thought he would be clever and get around the fees he owed not realizing the gravity of his assertion. So let me get this sorted out. I'll pay the fees. What a knucklehead. Etc.
I would say it is gen and that I owed the guy money, but he agreed to take the watch and pay a small amount to settle the debt. The the buyer thought he would be clever and get around the fees he owed not realizing the gravity of his assertion. So let me get this sorted out. I'll pay the fees. What a knucklehead. Etc.
*starts to sharpen a stake*
... *gathers some firewood*
*pours the gasoline canisters on the firewood*
... All right now were ready!
Give us his name!!
... *gathers some firewood*
*pours the gasoline canisters on the firewood*
... All right now were ready!
Give us his name!!
Buyer is a complete idiot. With that said, NEVER, I repeat NEVER, use FedEx or UPS when sending your rep to Canada. I realize we had a postal strike, so there wasn't much option, but the buyer should have just told you to wait until after the strike to send it.
Now back to why you should NEVER send a rep, or much else for that matter, using FedEx or UPS. They have their own internal customs departments and try to max out how much they can collect in duties from you. They also slap on their own internal customs "processing" fee. You are practically guaranteed that they will value your rep at 100% gen value for calculation of duties to be charged.
Canada Post, on the other hand, rarely will even open up your parcel if it is under $80 in value, and you probably will never get charged duties (I have yet to pay any, except once when the sender put a value of $300
). On the downside, CanPost can lose quite a few parcels, especially during internal management/union disputes .......
Now back to why you should NEVER send a rep, or much else for that matter, using FedEx or UPS. They have their own internal customs departments and try to max out how much they can collect in duties from you. They also slap on their own internal customs "processing" fee. You are practically guaranteed that they will value your rep at 100% gen value for calculation of duties to be charged.
Canada Post, on the other hand, rarely will even open up your parcel if it is under $80 in value, and you probably will never get charged duties (I have yet to pay any, except once when the sender put a value of $300
). On the downside, CanPost can lose quite a few parcels, especially during internal management/union disputes .......Thanks guys. Still waiting for the buyer to update me on his promise to go to fedex and sort things out. I already gave Trailboss his name, and I will leave it up to him to decide if I could release it here.
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The buyer obviously was ignorant to the level of watch the BKYM is ... Hopefully, he will be banned..
Guys, a bit of over-reaction I think. Yes, it was stupid. But the admins have his name, it's in the process of at least being smoothed over. Put away the pitchforks and the torches and chalk this one up to a learning experience.
Sellers: Use a postal service less likely to cause situations like this
Buyers: When you accept a sale ALL customs risks are on you.
Sellers: Use a postal service less likely to cause situations like this
Buyers: When you accept a sale ALL customs risks are on you.
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The buyer has sorted thing out with fedex. In fairness to the guy, I believe it was just an honest mistake of trying to avoid paying duties. I guess there are lessons to be learned here from a selling and buying standpoint.
Thanks to everyone.
Thanks to everyone.
I guess "don't tell a customs officer that you're importing illegal goods" is a rule we should all follow... :slap: