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Where's Waldo ? I mean where's the Gens among these Reps ?

PeaLow

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y buy a real one after seeing this

becoause some of them are Gens

and on some models, the Reps is really bad compared to the gens

and because Pam is like a diesease after you bought several reps, you can't help it to wanting the Gens :)
 

PeaLow

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okay here's the truth:

-Pam 049 = Gen
-Pam 050 = Gen
-Pam 292 = Rep
-Pam 292 = Rep
-Pam 390 = Rep
-Pam 55 = Gen
-Pam 562 = Gen
-Pam 029 = Gen
-Pam 243 = Rep
-Pam 389 = Rep
-Pam 389 = Rep
-Pam 604 = Rep
-Pam 372 = Gen
-Pam 605 = Gen

if someone need detail shots for comparisons Gens vs Reps just ask me and i'll gladly help.

among my collection , the one that catches me the most so that i can't resist to get the Gen is the Pam 029 T-Dial and Pam 605 oh, btw my 605 is the latest R series and now it comes with Sapphire instead of Plexiglass.

 

Evora

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Well the 605 also a 99 pieces edition

The 605 is definitely NOT a Limited Edition, but a limited production of 99 pieces per year. So, there are 99 "Q" version (2014), 99 "R" (2015)... I assume there will be some new "S" series for 2016 production.

Only the "Q" and the first "R" models are fitted with a plexi, lastest production comes with sapphire.

;-)

Nice collection, Sir !
 

elusive1

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Whoah gen 372 and 605 are extra beautiful. can you post closer pics of 372 and 605 together? Want to see the difference in appearance between plexiglass and sapphire . do they have the same shape dome?

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PeaLow

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The 605 is definitely NOT a Limited Edition, but a limited production of 99 pieces per year. So, there are 99 "Q" version (2014), 99 "R" (2015)... I assume there will be some new "S" series for 2016 production.

Only the "Q" and the first "R" models are fitted with a plexi, lastest production comes with sapphire.

;-)

Nice collection, Sir !

i know that but we don't know yet wheter there will be "S" production for 605 as i went to firenze boutique and the people there said the 001 firenze has stop production this year, so maybe who knows the 605 gonna be stopped as well :p
anyway my 605 is R series and it comes with Sapphire not plexi, i know the Q series has plexi, but mine is R series that i picked up on January this year, it comes with Sapphire.
 

PeaLow

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Whoah gen 372 and 605 are extra beautiful. can you post closer pics of 372 and 605 together? Want to see the difference in appearance between plexiglass and sapphire . do they have the same shape dome?

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the appearance is more or less the same
sam shape of dome
the only differences is the distortion that the crystal made.
the Plexi is a little bit less disrtoriting to the dial, the sapphire is alittle bit more "cloudy" not cloudy as with bad quality reps, but you will notice it when you hold both of the watch side by side.

for me i'm quite happy with both of them
but if i have to choose . i will choose sapphire as it gives me more "peacefullness" when wearing it, so that im not afraid if i bumped it into something.

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ALE7575

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Thanks PeaLow
Very interesting thread
Congrats on your nice collection

ALE
 

hublotkingpower

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Just WOW !! interesting to see how gen owners (a big collector in this case) still has reps guess there's enough space for the two ;) Congrats on your amazing collection bro !!
 

PeaLow

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for me, reps and gens watches are no differences,
as long as they both tell a good time accuracy
cause i've a brand new Pam Gen that doesnt even keep a good time accuracy
it was off by more than 3 minutes / day !
i complained about it to the AD and they said it was normal if a gen watch have accuracy less than 5 minutes a day.
if it's more than 5 minutes then they can send it for service.
for me this is absurd , as i'm paying a lot for an genuine expensive watch, the least it should do is keeping a good time accuracy for me.
in the end i sold it off .
even most of my reps keeps better time accuracy than that particular watch.

but what i've learned so far , collecting gen watches require more capital, but in the end you'll lose less money than collecting rep watches.
if you buy second hand gens , you can sell it off again at very minimal loss, sometimes even a littlebit of profit.
but if you collecting reps, they are harder to sell, and in the end you will spend more on modding the watch.
 

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If you ever get a chance... please do a side-by-side review of the 605 w/ the ZF.
 

PeaLow

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but from what i see on this forum, all the 605 reps dial colour is totally wrong
 

Rotador

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That is a very good collection of PAMs, Pealow. Also, you have done a good work collecting all those straps.

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PeaLow

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[MENTION=90035]Rotador[/MENTION]
thx , most of the straps are locally made straps from the strapsmith in my country
like gunny, malio and pulchers.
 

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for me, reps and gens watches are no differences,
as long as they both tell a good time accuracy
cause i've a brand new Pam Gen that doesnt even keep a good time accuracy
it was off by more than 3 minutes / day !
i complained about it to the AD and they said it was normal if a gen watch have accuracy less than 5 minutes a day.
if it's more than 5 minutes then they can send it for service.
for me this is absurd , as i'm paying a lot for an genuine expensive watch, the least it should do is keeping a good time accuracy for me.
in the end i sold it off .

Such a "great" answer from AD required a "great" reply....
You should have opened the case back, moved the regulator arm, thus making it delay 20' a day. Then ask for service. Game over!.
 

Ruski91

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Superb collection you have there. Indeed tough to tell the reps from the gens from the front, especially when they are mixed together and thrown on aftermarket straps such as yours. I was going to say that the 372 and 605 look gen but you beat me to it with your answers, as i am just seeing this thread now for the first time.

In any case - fantastic collection. Enjoy them all!
 

PeaLow

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Such a "great" answer from AD required a "great" reply....
You should have opened the case back, moved the regulator arm, thus making it delay 20' a day. Then ask for service. Game over!.

i didnt dare to opened it cause it's still brand new and still have the warranty
i sold it off immidiatelly, the problem is actually quite common, it was a pam 560 with P5000 8 days movement.
i've read similar problem with the P.5000 on several other forums.
it will only get faster by up to 3 minutes when the watch is fully winded, after 1-2 days then it "slows down" to normal
quite frustating though as is it a gen