Western Union and Paypal SUCK!!!!

[road rash]

Yeah I can do it in person. AHHHH Get in my car drive to the place. Wait in line. Pay $27.oo Fee. AHHHH all for a watch that costs $150.00. Pain in the ASS! All this computer crap and I can't send a simple $150.00 to someone in Singapore. Just nutty. What ever happened to buyer beware and a fool and his money. AHHHH. If I want to throw my mney away WU should be more than happy to do it. Why don't these dealers just start to take Visa or MC????? 3-5% charge for the use...who cares. For the hassle that is other payment options, who cares.

...I just did a WU a week ago to Singapore and the fee was $22.00. I don't get why you had to pay $27.00, that's a little crazy. WU offices are all franchised and the one here is owned by a nice couple and they never ask any questions, just fax the order to Andrew's WU agent and that's it...sorry to hear about your problem but I'm with you all the way on the "buyer beware", a person should be able to send money to whoever and however...

WU to Singapore cost more than WU to Gangzhou. Don't ask me why but it is about $10 more. You can at least use WU online to calculate the fee prior to walking in the store and paying cash. It is $14 from where I am for Gangzhoue and $25 for Singapore.
If you have an American Express go with Moneybookers. The charge is about 1%. You are limited in the amount purchased at first with MB, to about $322 per 60 days. They then increase the amount the more you utilize their service. MB against a credit card is not billed as a cash advance but rather a purchase.

Both Josh and Andrew take MB.

 

[daytona4me]

If you have an American Express go with Moneybookers. The charge is about 1%. You are limited in the amount purchased at first with MB, to about $322 per 60 days. They then increase the amount the more you utilize their service. MB against a credit card is not billed as a cash advance but rather a purchase.

That is good info to have!

 

[hk45ca]

Yeah I can do it in person. AHHHH Get in my car drive to the place. Wait in line. Pay $27.oo Fee. AHHHH all for a watch that costs $150.00. Pain in the ASS! All this computer crap and I can't send a simple $150.00 to someone in Singapore. Just nutty. What ever happened to buyer beware and a fool and his money. AHHHH. If I want to throw my mney away WU should be more than happy to do it. Why don't these dealers just start to take Visa or MC????? 3-5% charge for the use...who cares. For the hassle that is other payment options, who cares.

...I just did a WU a week ago to Singapore and the fee was $22.00. I don't get why you had to pay $27.00, that's a little crazy. WU offices are all franchised and the one here is owned by a nice couple and they never ask any questions, just fax the order to Andrew's WU agent and that's it...sorry to hear about your problem but I'm with you all the way on the "buyer beware", a person should be able to send money to whoever and however...

WU to Singapore cost more than WU to Gangzhou. Don't ask me why but it is about $10 more. You can at least use WU online to calculate the fee prior to walking in the store and paying cash. It is $14 from where I am for Gangzhoue and $25 for Singapore.
If you have an American Express go with Moneybookers. The charge is about 1%. You are limited in the amount purchased at first with MB, to about $322 per 60 days. They then increase the amount the more you utilize their service. MB against a credit card is not billed as a cash advance but rather a purchase.

Both Josh and Andrew take MB.

ruby discounts my wu fees from the price of the watch so for me it is a wash.

 

[galevin]

I've only used WU one time and the charge to send $1000 was $81 online. And for me to go visit a local center would cost what? Less than $20? Pardon my French. But F'em. Why rip me off online where it is 400% cheaper to go to the local store? This is crazy. Usually when you do something online it is cheaper as it is all automated vs going to the store and dealing with real people usually is more expensive. Again, F' em. I'll never used WU again, online or at their store. JMHO.

 

[OldeCrow]

Well between RWI and Paypal I have saved a couple thousand dollars, since I can only sell three reps in a month I have to be careful how many I buy plus with so many of our dealers giving up Paypal I've just not bought any shit watches for about three months and with all that cash I get to buy really great Genuines with Paypal on the light side! THANKS RWI AND PAYPAL!!!!

Genuines I have bought so far with all the money I have saved By useing Paypal and RWI!!

2x titoni's
1x Robert 300m diver
1x Steinhart 300m diver
1x Accutron
1x Damasko DC57!!!

I think I am forgetting that many again ... Next month I will buy a Genuine Omega Seamaster GMT white dial!! WOO HOO I love this place!!

 

[TWP]

Moneygram was very easy to use online, I dont know if he takes moneygram but it was extremely simple!

Not Moneybookers... Moneygram

Very easy indeed. Just sent three payments out using moneygram...no questions...no bullsh*T...just plain simple.

 

[daytona4me]

I think Neil said that it is not easy for overseas users. ?? If I recall his conversation right ??
Maybe he was talking about google-checkout.

Either way, Jos,Andrew,Neil are not using moneygram, Ruby-? not sure.
Too bad, I really liked using moneygram.

 

[hk45ca]

I think Neil said that it is not easy for overseas users. ?? If I recall his conversation right ??
Maybe he was talking about google-checkout.

Either way, Jos,Andrew,Neil are not using moneygram, Ruby-? not sure.
Too bad, I really liked using moneygram.

i also remember neil saying there were hidden fee's everywhere with moneygram.

 

[machine]

hi guys
just wanted to share my experiences with ikobo and what ive learnt abt em.

ikobo have a policy about only allowing u to send money to people you know personally.
u r only allowed to have 3 people to whom u can send money to
u can only have 1 ikobo account
charges are around 7%
the debit card which ur reciever will recieve will cost u 10usd.once the card is with them u can top it up with whatever amount (up to 500usd or u can send docs to have it increased) and they will be able to withdraw it immediately

initially when i started using ikobo it was fine,had a limit of 500usd per month and no issues.
after the 2nd month they closed my account and said i had to contact them.
they then hassled me for fax copies of my credit card/residence proof/telephone bill etc
the agent on the chat,this guy named carlos said once they recieved the documents my account would be back up within 24 hours.

i waited 4 days and no news so i contacted carlos and he said that the faxes they recieved were not clear and i will have to resend em $%&$^*#$^

which i did and managed to get my account back up,but i rarely use it now.paypal is much easier plus cheaper at 5%.unfortunately some asswipes have ruined paypal as a payment option for buying reps for us.which is totally $%&$%&#$^ since i just got into this!

if there are any other questions about ikobo feel free to ask i will try to answer all of them

regards,
machine

 

[cybee]

machine: thanks that's good info to know. I've been waiting to hear about some first hand experiences with ikobo..

 

[007]

Yeah... Things are tough all over. That reminds me, that I ought to see that movie again. May be even right now.

And for all of you complaining about the horrible situation. How about lifting your butt from that chair and getting some fresh air on your way to the nearest WU office and stop whining for a change? And how about walking to that office and just leaving your car keys alone for a moment?

 

[TWP]

I think Neil said that it is not easy for overseas users. ?? If I recall his conversation right ??
Maybe he was talking about google-checkout.

Either way, Jos,Andrew,Neil are not using moneygram, Ruby-? not sure.
Too bad, I really liked using moneygram.

i also remember neil saying there were hidden fee's everywhere with moneygram.

Perhaps hidden fees for the reciever, but as I said only 11.95 to send payment. No probelm with it yet.

 

[hk45ca]

Yeah... Things are tough all over. That reminds me, that I ought to see that movie again. May be even right now.

And for all of you complaining about the horrible situation. How about lifting your but from that chair and getting some fresh air on your way to the nearest WU office and stop whining for a change? And how about walking to that office and just leaving your car keys alone for a moment?

isn't that the truth? you can't swing a dead cat with out hitting a wu outlet. it just isn't that tough. even when ruby started taking pay pal i still send her money by wu.

it's easy. lol

 

[horologie_unitas]

thanks...finally...using PayPal...you agreed to their terms of use...paying for....trafficking counterfeit...freezes your accounts .....and you can dispute...til kingdome come....
paypalis fun til something goes wrong ...and they start asking questions....or a rep dealer gets flagged...and paypal researches who bought from him.....
its all so fucking scary.....

 

[TWP]

thanks...finally...using PayPal...you agreed to their terms of use...paying for....trafficking counterfeit...freezes your accounts .....and you can dispute...til kingdome come....
paypalis fun til something goes wrong ...and they start asking questions....or a rep dealer gets flagged...and paypal researches who bought from him.....
its all so fucking scary.....

:shock: s&^t good point my friend,yeah really fucking scary.

 

[galevin]

Yeah... Things are tough all over. That reminds me, that I ought to see that movie again. May be even right now.

And for all of you complaining about the horrible situation. How about lifting your but from that chair and getting some fresh air on your way to the nearest WU office and stop whining for a change? And how about walking to that office and just leaving your car keys alone for a moment?

isn't that the truth? you can't swing a dead cat with out hitting a wu outlet. it just isn't that tough. even when ruby started taking pay pal i still send her money by wu.

it's easy. lol

There aint no WU office, near or far, that I'll ever do business with regardless of any watch. When they charge $80 online and $20 by going local, they can kiss my white @ss (as G. W. Bush can do the same). End of story.You rip me off, I don't complain, I just don't do repeat business with you. W.U., F. Y. Come on, common sense only tells you that online expenses should be lower than retail, in the showroom expense. Again, W.U., F.Y. You won't ever get my business again.

 

[takashi]

Using WU in Singapore is a pain in the arse too... Ridiculous exchange rate, commission rate and WU rate.... All horrible. I had sent USD100 to USA via WU and in the end it totalled up to 137USD. Imagine how much they make money on that one.

WU---- I won't use it anymore for any purpose...

 

[benbob]

Yeah... Things are tough all over. That reminds me, that I ought to see that movie again. May be even right now.

And for all of you complaining about the horrible situation. How about lifting your but from that chair and getting some fresh air on your way to the nearest WU office and stop whining for a change? And how about walking to that office and just leaving your car keys alone for a moment?

isn't that the truth? you can't swing a dead cat with out hitting a wu outlet. it just isn't that tough. even when ruby started taking pay pal i still send her money by wu.

it's easy. lol

For me the nearest WU outlet is 25mins drive depending on traffic! :x
so naturally PP is much more convenient for me, drives me mad thinking just one asswipe has ruined it for all! :evil:

 

[d4m.test]

Either way, Jos,Andrew,Neil are not using moneygram

@D4me......please pay attention......I SPECIFICALLT DO TAKE MONEYGRAM......CAN'T SPEAK FOR ANY OTHER DEALER......BUT I-KOBO WON'T WORK LONG TERM.......!

 

[coop]

WU

Ok, WU, I went TO MY LOCAL STORE, no questions but it cost me $47 to send $300 to china. I live in St. louis Mo. Paypal is much more convienent. Why are the dealers so concerned about being screwed? Are we the consumers not allowed to worry about sending money to some one we dont know? I understand they dont want to lose any money, and the pp freeze on their account thing sucks, be we buyers need some securtiy as well. Anyone out there with the funds to start their own "pp" like system that we members could use? Make some extra cash with low fees and help us buy reps!